Printing error on MCIS vinyl sleeve

[Cool As Ice Cream]

When I was checking eBay, this auction got my attention: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi … 0569176951

Interesting to see a promo copy up for sale. On the other hand, it’s only a normal copy with a sticker. And it’s quite expensive already.
But this part of the description got me thinking:

There is also what appears to be a slight printing error – a horizontal line about a third of the way up. It is on the front and back, but not on the inside of the gatefold. The copy I’m keeping (#3246) has the same error. Please see the pictures.[/quote:2x8ictkx]

When I checked my copies, I found the same error on the copy with number 3099. The numbers 11799 and 16771 don’t have this line. The second, unnumbered pressing copy is also line-free.
The line on the front runs through the lower hand. The line on the back is between the tracklist of side 4 (twilight) and side 5 (midnight).

I was wondering if everyone could check their copies. Maybe we can find a pattern. A link between the number and the line on the sleeve. The line looks like their printer was a bit dirty. So it’s likely that it only appears on one range of numbers, and that they fixed this once they noticed.
This is all very geeky, but I find it interesting. So please, check your copy or copies and report back here. Thank you.

Please don’t include the bootlegged copies. In other words, if there is no white box in the lower right corner at the front of the sleeve, with or without number, we don’t want to know about it.

List so far:

eBayer:
3246: line
3247: line

me:
3099: line
11799: no line
16771: no line
unnumbered: no line

[manillascissor]

List so far:

eBayer:
3246: line
3247: line

me:
3099: line
11799: no line
16771: no line
unnumbered: no line

manillascissor:
12692: no line

[Cool As Ice Cream]

thx.

[jawn till dusk]

#957

line on back

cant see line on front

Maybe it was the original intended 5000 copies which have this.

[alladnzane]

with the number 224, there is no line neither on front nor on back!

[jawn till dusk]

dont believe you.

[alladnzane]

oh yes it’s true!!!!
no line….

[Cool As Ice Cream]

interesting. thanks.

[Danni]

Haven’t got the line on my copy.

[Sven]

my copy is at my girlfriend’s place but there’s no line!!!
nr < 6.000

i would not make too much out of this…
some sleeves were printed with a line, some without…
shit happens in printing enormous amounts of sleeves in hi-res…

it’s basically not a misprint…

it’s just that the printer had a miss-hap somewhere…

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true examples of rare fuck ups are some copies of Today 7\" where the label is literally ON the vinyl and thus off centre and misplaced… ))

this is just one example, there are many more…

[Cool As Ice Cream]

it’s basically not a misprint…

it’s just that the printer had a miss-hap somewhere…[/quote:2i7cnjvi]
i know. i just want to see if we can find out where. i know it’s not important, but why not give it a go? it gives everyone the opportunity to take their copy in their hands and look at it from a new perspective.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

Haven’t got the line on my copy.[/quote:po8wvtvp]
and what’s the number?

[Sven]

it’s basically not a misprint…

it’s just that the printer had a miss-hap somewhere…[/quote:nxzan6a8]
i know. i just want to see if we can find out where. i know it’s not important, but why not give it a go? it gives everyone the opportunity to take their copy in their hands and look at it from a new perspective.[/quote:nxzan6a8]

true and nothing wrong with holding a copy of the MCIS vinyl in your hands

[Cool As Ice Cream]

if you say there’s no line on your copy, did you actually check it, or do you trust your memory?

i hadn’t noticed the line myself before i read about it. i must’ve never really paid much attention to this copy.

[Danni]

#11622

[Cool As Ice Cream]

checking ebay…

: hard to tell, but i think i can see a line on the front. there is no picture of the back.

: no lines

: no line on the front. no picture of the back.

: no line on the front. no picture of the back.

: no line on the front. no picture of the back.

[Danni]

#23032: I don’t see no line

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smashing-Pumpkins-L … 2a124b4e7a

[mirrorboxer]

# 11075 – No Line

[Danni]

4844. This one has indeed a line.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

4844. This one has indeed a line.[/quote:bxkljtj5]
ooh, interesting. that’s quite a high number. i wasn’t expecting for the numbers to go that high.

is the line on the front and the back?

[Cool As Ice Cream]

#23032: I don’t see no line

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smashing-Pumpkins-L … 2a124b4e7a[/quote:yiwyyngx]
also, is this one of the highest known numbers?
many sources say there were 20,000 numbered copies, but this copy proves otherwise.

[Danni]

Provided better pics.

Front: http://oi53.tinypic.com/m7atjb.jpg

Back: http://oi55.tinypic.com/15x3byh.jpg

Annoying little line.

[Arthur]

As CAIC, checking ebay too…

: no line, as far as I can see.

: no line, as far as I can see.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

4844. This one has indeed a line.[/quote:197dfv5t]
http://bloggzilla.blogg.se/2011/august/ … p-484.html

[Danni]

#33 – hmmmm…. no line.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

interesting pattern, if all our assumptions about some of those unclear ebay copies are correct.
let’s keep doing this for a bit longer.

33: no line
224: no line
367: no line

368-956: ?

957: line
3099: line
3153: line
3246: line
3247: line
4844: line

4845-6017: ?

6018: no line
6027: no line
11075: no line
11149: no line
11622: no line
11799: no line
12692: no line
16771: no line
17352: no line
23032: no line

unnumbered copies: no line

[Danni]

sorry, realized I forgot the link.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smashing-Pumpki … 45fd1fa335

Fairly low number though.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

6797: no line

http://www.ebay.com/itm/250892546278

[Cool As Ice Cream]

from the o-board: http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_n … opic=18013

3483: line
3721: (waiting for confirmation)
3938: line
19162: no line

it would be interesting to find more copies in the 400-3000 range and in the 4000-6000 range.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

here’s an overview so far.
the thesis that all copies with a line are from one range of numbers still stands.
it would be interesting to find out more about some copies in our \"question mark\" ranges, in order to get a better idea what the \"line\" range exactly is.

33: no line
224: no line
367: no line

368-956: ?

957: line
3099: line
3153: line
3246: line
3247: line
3483: line
3938: line
4844: line

4845-6017: ?

6018: no line
6027: no line
6797: no line
11075: no line
11149: no line
11622: no line
11799: no line
12692: no line
16771: no line
17352: no line
19162: no line
23032: no line

unnumbered copies: no line

[jawn till dusk]

[Cool As Ice Cream]

13218: no line http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/26 … 612183198/

[Cool As Ice Cream]

another one from sp.com: 14220: no line.

and why that face, jawn till dusk?

[jawn till dusk]

It’s a cofused face.

I typed out a short post with what i thought may be an explanation.I then read through it before posting and realised i was talking bollocks.

Hence the confused face.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

haha!

keep your eyes open for more numbers, everyone!

[Sven]

5388 > no line

[Cool As Ice Cream]

super. thanks.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/230699496512
12998: no line

[Arthur]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/310362428957

#7607 no line

[Arthur]

Hard to see… #1084 from an eBay auction. To me it looks like there is no line, but that would break the pattern?

[Cool As Ice Cream]

check out what was said about number 957:

#957

line on back

cant see line on front [/quote:3izm2e44]
maybe this copy on ebay is the same?

[amnesia]

Gonna see what number my copy is, not sure where it is, need to look for it.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

it should be in the lower right corner on the front.

[jawn till dusk]

check out what was said about number 957:

#957

line on back

cant see line on front [/quote:glx84u9z]
maybe this copy on ebay is the same?[/quote:glx84u9z]

Checked my #957 again(must have done this a dozen times or so ).

Still cant see the line on the front.

If you can help me with how to post pics,i’ll post some incase i’m missing something.

I’m not too good with computers.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

it’s fine. we believe you. maybe the line started showing up on the back, and then a bit later also showed up on the front.
we need to check more copies with a number lower than 5,000.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

5000: line (front and back)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190659563904

[Cool As Ice Cream]

3940: line on the front, no picture of the back

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110850539310

[jawn till dusk]

#957

Checked mine again.

Back- Line,but not as prominant as pics in thread.

Front-there is is a hint of a line,but barely visible.

i thought i was just imagining it,but i took a photo and zoomed right in,and there is a very slight trace after all.

Hope this helps!

[amnesia]

16257 here, with line front and back.

[Arthur]

16257 here, with line front and back.[/quote:gvr9wf1q]
This breaks the pattern…

[Cool As Ice Cream]

aw, shit.

[Cool As Ice Cream]

1183: line on front and back

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