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2011.06.30 at 2:24 pm #1594
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorWhen I was checking eBay, this auction got my attention: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi … 0569176951
Interesting to see a promo copy up for sale. On the other hand, it’s only a normal copy with a sticker. And it’s quite expensive already.
But this part of the description got me thinking:There is also what appears to be a slight printing error – a horizontal line about a third of the way up. It is on the front and back, but not on the inside of the gatefold. The copy I’m keeping (#3246) has the same error. Please see the pictures.[/quote:2x8ictkx]
When I checked my copies, I found the same error on the copy with number 3099. The numbers 11799 and 16771 don’t have this line. The second, unnumbered pressing copy is also line-free.
The line on the front runs through the lower hand. The line on the back is between the tracklist of side 4 (twilight) and side 5 (midnight).I was wondering if everyone could check their copies. Maybe we can find a pattern. A link between the number and the line on the sleeve. The line looks like their printer was a bit dirty. So it’s likely that it only appears on one range of numbers, and that they fixed this once they noticed.
This is all very geeky, but I find it interesting. So please, check your copy or copies and report back here. Thank you.Please don’t include the bootlegged copies. In other words, if there is no white box in the lower right corner at the front of the sleeve, with or without number, we don’t want to know about it.
List so far:
eBayer:
3246: line
3247: lineme:
3099: line
11799: no line
16771: no line
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2011.06.30 at 8:25 pm #43151
manillascissorKeymasterList so far:
eBayer:
3246: line
3247: lineme:
3099: line
11799: no line
16771: no line
unnumbered: no linemanillascissor:
12692: no line -
2011.07.01 at 8:16 am #43152
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorthx.
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2011.07.01 at 3:31 pm #43153
jawn till duskSpectator#957
line on back
cant see line on front
Maybe it was the original intended 5000 copies which have this.
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2011.07.01 at 6:12 pm #43154
alladnzaneSpectatorwith the number 224, there is no line neither on front nor on back!
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2011.07.02 at 12:50 am #43155
jawn till duskSpectatordont believe you.
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2011.07.02 at 9:08 am #43156
alladnzaneSpectatoroh yes it’s true!!!!
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2011.07.04 at 8:13 am #43157
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorinteresting. thanks.
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2011.07.04 at 1:35 pm #43158
DanniSpectatorHaven’t got the line on my copy.
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2011.07.04 at 6:36 pm #43159
SvenSpectatormy copy is at my girlfriend’s place but there’s no line!!!
nr < 6.000i would not make too much out of this…
some sleeves were printed with a line, some without…
shit happens in printing enormous amounts of sleeves in hi-res…it’s basically not a misprint…
it’s just that the printer had a miss-hap somewhere…
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true examples of rare fuck ups are some copies of Today 7\" where the label is literally ON the vinyl and thus off centre and misplaced… ))
this is just one example, there are many more…
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2011.07.05 at 7:48 am #43160
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorit’s basically not a misprint…
it’s just that the printer had a miss-hap somewhere…[/quote:2i7cnjvi]
i know. i just want to see if we can find out where. i know it’s not important, but why not give it a go? it gives everyone the opportunity to take their copy in their hands and look at it from a new perspective. -
2011.07.05 at 7:50 am #43161
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorHaven’t got the line on my copy.[/quote:po8wvtvp]
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2011.07.05 at 12:45 pm #43162
SvenSpectatorit’s basically not a misprint…
it’s just that the printer had a miss-hap somewhere…[/quote:nxzan6a8]
i know. i just want to see if we can find out where. i know it’s not important, but why not give it a go? it gives everyone the opportunity to take their copy in their hands and look at it from a new perspective.[/quote:nxzan6a8]true and nothing wrong with holding a copy of the MCIS vinyl in your hands
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2011.07.05 at 12:48 pm #43163
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorif you say there’s no line on your copy, did you actually check it, or do you trust your memory?
i hadn’t noticed the line myself before i read about it. i must’ve never really paid much attention to this copy.
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2011.07.05 at 6:07 pm #43164
DanniSpectator#11622
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2011.07.12 at 4:16 pm #43165
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2011.07.14 at 10:20 am #43166
DanniSpectator#23032: I don’t see no line
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2011.08.08 at 12:13 am #43167
mirrorboxerSpectator# 11075 – No Line
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2011.08.25 at 7:15 pm #43168
DanniSpectator4844. This one has indeed a line.
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2011.08.26 at 8:01 am #43169
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator4844. This one has indeed a line.[/quote:bxkljtj5]
ooh, interesting. that’s quite a high number. i wasn’t expecting for the numbers to go that high.is the line on the front and the back?
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2011.08.26 at 8:04 am #43170
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator#23032: I don’t see no line
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smashing-Pumpkins-L … 2a124b4e7a[/quote:yiwyyngx]
also, is this one of the highest known numbers?
many sources say there were 20,000 numbered copies, but this copy proves otherwise. -
2011.08.26 at 3:07 pm #43171
DanniSpectatorProvided better pics.
Front: http://oi53.tinypic.com/m7atjb.jpg
Back: http://oi55.tinypic.com/15x3byh.jpg
Annoying little line.
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2011.08.26 at 4:03 pm #43172
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2011.09.14 at 1:05 pm #43173
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator4844. This one has indeed a line.[/quote:197dfv5t]
http://bloggzilla.blogg.se/2011/august/ … p-484.html -
2011.09.14 at 2:50 pm #43174
DanniSpectator#33 – hmmmm…. no line.
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2011.09.14 at 3:11 pm #43175
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorinteresting pattern, if all our assumptions about some of those unclear ebay copies are correct.
let’s keep doing this for a bit longer.33: no line
224: no line
367: no line368-956: ?
957: line
3099: line
3153: line
3246: line
3247: line
4844: line4845-6017: ?
6018: no line
6027: no line
11075: no line
11149: no line
11622: no line
11799: no line
12692: no line
16771: no line
17352: no line
23032: no lineunnumbered copies: no line
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2011.09.14 at 3:36 pm #43176
DanniSpectatorsorry, realized I forgot the link.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smashing-Pumpki … 45fd1fa335
Fairly low number though.
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2011.09.14 at 3:59 pm #43177
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator6797: no line
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2011.11.03 at 9:21 am #43178
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorfrom the o-board: http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board_n … opic=18013
3483: line
3721: (waiting for confirmation)
3938: line
19162: no lineit would be interesting to find more copies in the 400-3000 range and in the 4000-6000 range.
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2011.11.16 at 12:43 pm #43179
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorhere’s an overview so far.
the thesis that all copies with a line are from one range of numbers still stands.
it would be interesting to find out more about some copies in our \"question mark\" ranges, in order to get a better idea what the \"line\" range exactly is.33: no line
224: no line
367: no line368-956: ?
957: line
3099: line
3153: line
3246: line
3247: line
3483: line
3938: line
4844: line4845-6017: ?
6018: no line
6027: no line
6797: no line
11075: no line
11149: no line
11622: no line
11799: no line
12692: no line
16771: no line
17352: no line
19162: no line
23032: no lineunnumbered copies: no line
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2011.11.16 at 5:16 pm #43180
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2011.11.16 at 6:08 pm #43181
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator13218: no line http://www.demonoid.me/files/details/26 … 612183198/
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2011.11.17 at 8:23 am #43182
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatoranother one from sp.com: 14220: no line.
and why that face, jawn till dusk?
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2011.11.17 at 1:11 pm #43183
jawn till duskSpectatorIt’s a cofused face.
I typed out a short post with what i thought may be an explanation.I then read through it before posting and realised i was talking bollocks.
Hence the confused face.
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2011.11.17 at 1:31 pm #43184
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorhaha!
keep your eyes open for more numbers, everyone!
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2011.11.17 at 2:15 pm #43185
SvenSpectator5388 > no line
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2011.11.17 at 4:07 pm #43186
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorsuper. thanks.
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2011.11.20 at 1:20 pm #43187
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorhttp://www.ebay.de/itm/230699496512
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2011.12.02 at 9:31 pm #43188
ArthurSpectatorhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/310362428957
#7607 no line
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2011.12.08 at 8:20 pm #43189
ArthurSpectatorHard to see… #1084 from an eBay auction. To me it looks like there is no line, but that would break the pattern?
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2011.12.09 at 8:30 am #43190
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorcheck out what was said about number 957:
#957
line on back
cant see line on front [/quote:3izm2e44]
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2011.12.09 at 11:25 am #43191
amnesiaSpectatorGonna see what number my copy is, not sure where it is, need to look for it.
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2011.12.09 at 11:39 am #43192
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorit should be in the lower right corner on the front.
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2011.12.09 at 5:32 pm #43193
jawn till duskSpectatorcheck out what was said about number 957:
#957
line on back
cant see line on front [/quote:glx84u9z]
maybe this copy on ebay is the same?[/quote:glx84u9z]Checked my #957 again(must have done this a dozen times or so ).
Still cant see the line on the front.
If you can help me with how to post pics,i’ll post some incase i’m missing something.
I’m not too good with computers.
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2011.12.09 at 5:35 pm #43194
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorit’s fine. we believe you. maybe the line started showing up on the back, and then a bit later also showed up on the front.
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2012.03.29 at 9:44 am #43195
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator5000: line (front and back)
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2012.03.29 at 9:48 am #43196
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator3940: line on the front, no picture of the back
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2012.03.29 at 6:57 pm #43197
jawn till duskSpectator#957
Checked mine again.
Back- Line,but not as prominant as pics in thread.
Front-there is is a hint of a line,but barely visible.
i thought i was just imagining it,but i took a photo and zoomed right in,and there is a very slight trace after all.
Hope this helps!
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2012.03.30 at 10:25 am #43198
amnesiaSpectator16257 here, with line front and back.
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2012.03.30 at 7:52 pm #43199
ArthurSpectator16257 here, with line front and back.[/quote:gvr9wf1q]
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2012.04.03 at 8:29 am #43200
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatoraw, shit.
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2012.06.13 at 1:55 pm #43201
Cool As Ice CreamSpectator1183: line on front and back
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