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the sacred and profane: http://www.mediafire.com/?98it3ocyzzl
age of innocence: http://www.mediafire.com/?6ijjxzjtyej
(both off arthur’s \"not finished master 1999-11-29\".)if i find some time, i’ll look into this myself tonight.
found this thread on the topic: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=112336
no hard answers, but i’ll use this as a start.also, can someone explain how these are alt mixes? what’s alternate about them? if it’s simply track duration, that’s not an alternate mix, but i’m sure you guys already know this.
thing is, i have quite a few (US) machina promos, but never knew what to listen for and almost all of them vary in track length from promo to promo.[/quote:1memh8r8]
i’ll try to explain:
the sacred and profane: extra drum loops at the beginning. (normally these only appear at the end of the track.)
age of innocence: this extra noise in the background, during all of the song, if i’m not mistaken.i should investigate this further, but i’m not even sure if all "alternate promo mixes" are the same. it hasn’t been confirmed that there isn’t any variation between the different sources.
does the FR regular full album promo also contain these alt mixes? if not, i would begin to question the purpose of these FR CD-Rs. i mean, why generate a CD-R with mixes different to the mixes that end up on your final promo release?[/quote:363mrlvo]
no, i checked the regular album promo, and it doesn’t contain the alternate mixes.we should indeed review our story behind the cd-rs. they’re not "test pressings" or "masters" for the regular cds. at least not in this case.
clearly the cd-r was made way before the other promotional cd. maybe they needed a handful of promotional cd-rs before they were able to press the normal promo cd, and even before they were able to acquire the finished master? (was it even finished at that time?)
possible reasons: they’re meant for people at the record company, they were meant for "listening parties" (did these exist back in 2000?), or any other theory that involves earliness and small quantity.Is it exactly the same French promo, the one that you just bought on eBay, and that we have on SPfreaks already?[/quote:1mjupqvc]
yes, it looks exactly the same.
if you give your copy a listen, you should be able to confirm this release indeed contains the alternate mixes.what other cd-rs with the alternate mixes do you own? and are there any other releases known with the alternate mixes?
i won a french machina cd-r promo yesterday. nobody else bid on it, so it was only £25.[/quote:1mjahym6]
well, this is a nice surprise: it contains the alternate mixes for "the sacred and profane" and "age of innocence". i don’t think i had these on any cd before.maybe this information could be added to the spfreaks collection entry: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … LS&item=35
(like here, for example: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3778)This has initiated my search for the rest of the 12" WLP. Anyone got some tips
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send me all your money.I didn’t know there where two versions of the interview. I believe I have one that is about 20 minutes.[/quote:2bymbda2]
that must be the full interview.i found this link: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/nieuws/2003/dece … pkins.html (it’s all in dutch though.)
stream seems to be gone. well, i couldn’t find it.edit: geo and derek, re: that podcast you were on, in this interview, billy mentions collecting 60s comic books and vinyl records.
here it is!
splra entry: http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bc2003-06-03
so this happened on the same day as the zwan show in amsterdam. (in my memory this was more of a the future embrace era interview. weird.)the two files off a dutch website back in the day (maybe they’re still up; dunno):
http://www.mediafire.com/?3644j31io66dajf
http://www.mediafire.com/?ku04lge6z75znbbI bought this Dutch book with (translated) transcripts of radio interviews from 1996-2006. The last one in the book is with Billy in which he talks, among other things, about the death of his mother. I would post a link to a mp3, but I can’t seem to find it right now. Have it on my harddrive somewhere though.
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i think i know what interview you’re talking about. "naar eer en geweten" rings a bell.
if i’m correct, then i have it in two forms: the interview as it was broadcast, and the full, unedited interview.
is this the interview where billy has to pick cards with questions?Nice, i would have bid on it if i had more money at this moment in time.
I missed out on the drown promo last night, it went for more than i was willing to pay really anyway. Hopefully another one pops up soon[/quote:tyu6vdsn]
how much did it go for and how much are you willing to pay?Just won the copy of G.L.O.W on ebay! One of the first pumpkins items i wanted, so happy[/quote:3tqp69cn]
$47
not badi listened to more of it. i can’t say i really enjoyed it, unfortunately. but still! spfreaks on a podcast! and it wasn’t their fault i didn’t like it.
do you hear it now?
also check this out. it explains where it comes from. http://doom.wikia.com/wiki/SPISPOPD
where boys fear to tread.
check this out: http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/song … ong_id=195
The DOOM explosion mentioned in the liner notes can be heard at the following times:
1:20
1:55
2:29
3:01
3:44 [/quote:17xknkjh]i went to a shop yesterday, and we opened two vinyl box sets and one cd+dvd box (felt like christmas
), and they all contained the cd+dvd box book. they will bring the issue to the attention of an emi representative that is visiting them on wednesday.[/quote:rk9xcyn5]
the emi representative postponed his visit until the 27th of february.
so no answers/solutions yet…nah, just imagine there is a hidden message, even if it’s something like \"poop\". just the fact that it is there, would be great. well, to me it would be.
i really doubt it though. my guess is that there’s been a copy/paste error of some kind, filling up that column with the wrong text.
I am also curious what is there to find behind the sticker. More secret reissue messages, again not initiated by Billy Corgan?[/quote:310ss6hp]
that would be awesome.
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