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Where can i pre order this [/quote:h0u8jhlh]
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also, i found the pisces iscariot reissue downloads again. i’ve got it in different formats, but all of them have a \"corrected\" plume version.

i haven’t been able to tell if it’s the \"2011 mix\" that appeared on the gish reissue, or if it’s just the original version they pumped up a bit (i’ve read this theory online), or if it’s yet another version.
maybe someone else, with decent ears, can check and compare? shall i upload one or more versions somewhere?

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amy winehouse – at the bbc

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how about you give it to me, I bid £5 until you 2 ruined it for me [/quote:68qyf6ut]
everyone’s just lucky that i forgot about this auction and didn’t bid at all. or it would have ended up a lot pricier.

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Do you want to give it to me for 36 Pounds?[/quote:43pqv2l3]
for 36 pounds? that’s not a gift.

just give it to me.

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nice!

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agreed, but i can imagine the set of masters reels for the 2011 mix was the one supposed to be remixed for inclusion on PI. that’s all.[/quote:wkh1udvu]
yep. i would think that the set of of master reels for both versions (2011 mix and 2012 remaster) was supposed to be the same.

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oh man, did anyone win that acetate of the adore interview disc on ebay?
i was going to bid on it, but then i forgot.

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at least you saved on shipping costs.
can’t have it all…

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yeah, if you had only ordered one, it would have been cheap enough to avoid import taxes.
i believe the limit in belgium is 20 euro.
next to the taxes, you also have to pay some administration fee of 10 euro, so for something of say, 25 euro, the whole import thing makes it a lot more expensive.

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The LP one was 169,00 euro standard pricing.[/quote:1wulz7e6]
that’s insane.
how can they justify a price like this?

arthur, don’t forget that you’ll most likely end up paying import taxes when you buy this on amazon.com. (ok, it’ll still end up being cheaper than 169 euro. but keep it in mind.)

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the tracklist of the vinyl reissue is the same as on the cd.
interesting. looks all right.
(this is the back insert of the US vinyl set, by the way.)

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also, sven, where did you find these, and how much did you pay for each?

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that’s a horrible mistake.

sven, a couple of questions:
– these copies of the cd set and the vinyl set you picked up in the netherlands, were they made in the EU, or are they a US release (cds possibly pressed in mexico)?
– what is the tracklist of the vinyl? does it include tonite reprise and infinite sadness? is it in the same order as the cd release?

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but, I did ask around and get a message from someone at the record company over here in The Netherlands the wrong Plume was used on the Gish re-issue which they knew when that was released, thus, even before the release of PI re-issue.[/quote:1cfuwwpx]
how would someone at the record company in the netherlands know that the wrong version of plume was put on the bonus disc? in what way are they part of the whole reissue process that they would be given that information?

anyway, if this is true, then it’s possible that the gish bonus disc contains the "remaster", i guess.
but this doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a mix up: it’s also possible that the kerry brown 2011 mix never got released anywhere, and yet another version ended up on the pisces iscariot reissue. maybe even intentional. maybe they didn’t want to release the remaster twice, so they made a new version to go on the pisces iscariot reissue? dunno.

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in the process of remastering and remixing with hunderds of reels going back and forth i believe it to be possible things got messed up somewhere along the line.

however, it is indeed not known if it was in fact the 2011 mix that was supposed to be on PI and the other one on the Gish re-issue. it would make some sense, but this we just do not know as of now…[/quote:2jx38w2a]
agreed.

they clearly used the wrong masters for plume on the pisces reissue.
it could be that they mixed up the two versions, but it could also just be a mistake when they started working on the pisces reissue plume.

i still think it’s not a mix up: normally they don’t use different vocal takes when remixing a track. so it’s unlikely that the version that is on the pisces reissue was supposed to go on the gish bonus disc under the name "2011 mix". if this version with the different vocal take was supposed to go on the bonus disc, they would have called it "alternate version" or "early version" or something along those lines, and not "2011 kerry brown mix".

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well, i’ve compared the original version to the 2011 mix and to the 2012 reissue version, and i can’t figure it out.

the biggest difference to me is indeed the different vocal take on the 2012 reissue version.
if they mixed up the 2011 mix with the remastered version or not, this is absolutely not done. this one thing ruins the pisces iscariot remaster for me. i still feel disappointed about this. an explanation might help.

and i’m sure i downloaded different versions of the pisces iscariot reissue download, but now i can’t find them anywhere. so i can’t check and confirm they replaced the reissue version of plume (present on all cds and vinyl records) from the download with a normal/fixed version.
maybe later, if i can find my files back.

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Offer not valid anymore. It’s the EMI EU promo. With eternal thanks to you King! [/quote:11w91ky3]
wow!

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also, saying that the 2011 mix was intended to go on the pisces iscariot reissue, and that the new version from the pisces iscariot reissue was intended to go on the gish reissue bonus disc is pure speculation, right? this hasn’t been confirmed, or has it?[/quote:1x01itoe]
actually, i don’t believe that the 2011 mix was supposed to go on the pisces iscariot reissue.

the 2011 mixes on the gish reissue had this idea behind them: let the producers from then mix the song again today. this is why butch vig and kerry brown remixed a couple of songs: they were in charge of them back when they were first recorded.

the idea behind the remastered albums: remastering the album. this does not include making new mixes of the songs. (with the exception of soothe. this song was mixed again, on purpose. bc mentioned this somewhere, i remember.)
i think they simply messed up the remastering of plume. and that’s it. the remastered version didn’t get mistaken for the 2011 mix.

just my opinion. i don’t really see anything that backs up the mix up theory, so i’m not going with it. feel free to give some arguments that support the mix up theory.
i don’t have the music with me right now, so i can’t check myself, but is this mainly based on the fact that the 2011 mix sounds very similar to the original version, and then the "remaster" sounds nothing like the original? or do you have other reasons to believe the two were mixed up?

didn’t they remaster pisces iscariot after gish and siamese dream were already reissued? if so, how could the two versions get mixed up? one was already released before the other one was created.
or was the pisces iscariot remaster already done while they were still working on the gish reissue bonus disc? i didn’t think so, but i can be wrong.

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PLUME
available on | version

I Am One (cds/10”/12”) | original version[/quote:2t0crlob]
since we’re going for complete correctness: plume is not on the 10" release of i am one.

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i believe they replaced plume on the pisces iscariot reissue download with a version that sounds more like the original.
not sure if they replaced it with the 2011 mix that was on the gish reissue bonus track, or with a slightly louder version of the original version. i might try and check that out, as i should have all releases somewhere.

also, saying that the 2011 mix was intended to go on the pisces iscariot reissue, and that the new version from the pisces iscariot reissue was intended to go on the gish reissue bonus disc is pure speculation, right? this hasn’t been confirmed, or has it?

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now that looks more like a normal price. i hope more copies show up for $25.

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the point is that i never paid anything. so that line \"already paid\" shouldn’t even be there.
it doesn’t really matter if the amount was the result of an incorrect conversion.

now give me my millions!

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also, this reservation has made me rich!
i chose to pay via bank transfer, and now they’re asking me to transfer minus twelve million euro. booya.

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yeah, it was fine in the end. in the beginning, the server was too busy, but after a while, it went better. there’s actually a good chance that this won’t sell out in one day. they’re playing on a festival location, so the capacity is huge.

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