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  • in reply to: CAN THERE BE ONLY ONE? (Favorite Pumpkins Song) #2006

    brotagaia
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    mine is Behold! The Night Mare :D

    I was so ecstatic when they played it at my concert

    at the moment i’m really loving superchrist though.. and gossamer.. i hope more songs like these follow shortly


    brotagaia
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    It disappoints me that Billy is thinking about this too.. but to some degree it shows a sense of maturity on his part. I don’t think Billy is all about \"fuck everyone and let me do what i want\" anymore. When he talks about darkness and light he talks about positivity and negativity and how he doesn’t want to indulge in negativity anymore. I guess that’s where this awareness comes into play because essentially he’s starting at the bottom again and is trying to work his way back to the top, but probably doesn’t want to do it by stepping on everyone’s toes or having a \"devil may care\" attitude like they did before. This could be dangerous if they don’t think things through before doing them. They run the risk of becoming show-ponies who do anything to get ahead. They run the risk of selling out, and no one wants to listen to a sell-out band.

    i think the fanbase and the band are a bit disconnected because of the new fans who have never heard of the band before. In the old days this issue wasn’t an issue because Billy didn’t give a shit about the fans and having so many. They flocked because he didn’t care and just did what he wanted to do. Now, Billy cares about the fans and pleasing the fans but still wants to do what he wants to do. It’s new ground he hasn’t covered before.

    When i was at the Brisbane concert recently, the majority of fans were at around the 18yo mark and as they were playing the amount of \"i haven’t heard this song before!\" when they played something from MCIS or Adore was really unbelievable. You’ve probably seen it on YouTube where he starts talking to the audience:

    [youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=m2ZZ6yTh-Fo[/youtube]

    I think the awareness of the gap between new fans and old fans is what is holding the band back. Sure, I want them to play whatever the hell they want to play, but even at the concerts you could feel the tension when the new songs were played. The crowd just basically stood there and talked asking each other whether it was a new song or an old song. Surely the band would want to play more new stuff if their concert advertising and merchandise is all about the Zeitgeist album.

    While I think it’s admirable to be concerned about pleasing everyone, I don’t think the band will be happy trying to do that. I think if they are going to have concerts and stuff, they should reserve a special part up close and personal for the fans (who may have to present a voucher or something via a fansite or fan club) and then let the doors open for the general public and whoever isn’t happy with it – too bad. All concerts are great, even if you don’t like the band. I saw Queens of the Stone Age before the Pumpkins at V Festival and while I don’t like their music (and only know of one member because he used to be in A Perfect Circle) it was a great concert and i enjoyed it. They didn’t care about what we wanted and the crowd went right off. It wasn’t because they were saying \"fuck you all\" – it was just because they were playing with passion and they were in control of themselves as a band rather than playing to please people.

    You don’t need to step on people’s toes to do whatever you want, it’s just about the attitude. Instead of \"Fuck you all.. this is my music and I’ll play whatever I want\" it just has to be \"This is my music and this is what I’m going to play – enjoy\". If people don’t like it, that’s not the band’s problem. You can’t please everyone and its pointless trying.

    in reply to: Smashing Pumpkins looking for new media staff! #8539

    brotagaia
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    I was less than impressed with the condescending tone of the email that came out with the application – giving us very specific instructions of how to name the files like we’re all morons and then the threads where people were asking about the status of the applications and they were very abrupt about it. I think these people must think they’re King Dick or something because they get to write for the official SP website. I don’t know who recruited them because they sound like tools. Just because they get to write for the band it doesn’t make them \"better\" than everyone else, which to me they clearly think they are.

    The fact that people didn’t even get emailed responses impresses me even less.. maybe we should have put in our applications \"please be VERY SURE to spell my email address CORRECTLY\". Their most recent post pisses me off even more – \" This was NOT A CONTEST, but a chance to show your employable worth and motivation. Anyone complaining about the way things were handled was not chosen for a karmatic reason.\"

    What a crock of shit. Karma my ass. Everyone who applied and followed the instructions correctly is clearly demonstrating their motivation and employable worth by having checked the website often enough to see this advertised job in the first place. It’s not unreasonable to follow up on a job application, especially when time constraints weren’t specified and more than a month had gone past. Considering the fact that they wanted these applications submitted quickly gives even more of a reason to follow up.

    Sure, I’m bitter and annoyed that my essay wasn’t picked, but more annoyed because these clearly unprofessional people seem to have no idea how to co-ordinate a job recruitment process and treat people like they aren’t scum.

    in reply to: Smashing Pumpkins looking for new media staff! #8537

    brotagaia
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    I got a \"sorry you weren’t chosen\" letter – Which is fine, because i know my writing was great anyway. When my book is published I won’t have to grant them copyright privileges.

    I have to write essays all the time for university and i know it was structured properly and written well and I definitely got my point across. I even got my boss, who has been a practicing lawyer for over 30 years and is very fluent in the English language to read it and he said it was great as well.

    I don’t need some website with writers who can’t spell, write or even punctuate properly to tell me that my writing wasn’t what they were looking for. Of course it wasn’t. I should have just scribbled on a piece of paper with crayons, added some drool for effect and said \"pleez pik mine writing story i luv teh pumpknz\".

    All I know is that these writers had better have a better grasp of English than I do to make me eat my proverbial words.


    brotagaia
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    See yeah i thought of that too.. but how can they do smaller shows in so many different parts of the world?

    The cost of it all far outweighs what money they’d get back. Smaller shows would work in the US where they aren’t spending heaps on travelling and freight of their equipment, venue hire, promotions and marketing, accomodation.. there’s so much other stuff that i haven’t even listed.. all of which would cost heaps if you take it overseas… they’d want to be able to make that much money back, as well as have a set amount they’d want to make on top of that – enough to be able to make awesome videos and get a whole new thing going on where record companies are screaming out at them to sign and letting them do whatever they want. With the music industry going the way it is at the moment, the possibility of this doesn’t look too good. The impending law suit makes this look even worse because it’d deter a lot of other record companies for fear of being bitten on the ass.

    Judging from the fanbase in my part of the world, that certainly doesn’t cover many people at all. They only did a few shows here in Australia anyway, so to have even smaller shows wouldn’t work because there was barely enough publicity about it to begin with. I imagine the case would be the same in other countries outside of the US.

    If it were me, I’d just say too bad to the general audience and throw out all of the new stuff and see how it goes. It probably wouldn’t go down too well to begin with, and a fair few of old fans would probably get annoyed, but the more people hear the new stuff and learn to connect with the band of today and not the band of 10 years ago, the better. I don’t actually think they’d lose too many listeners at all. As much as I loved hearing the old stuff, I know I got WAY more excited when i heard something new.. knowing that the spirit is still alive is what brings me back every single time.. surely it wouldn’t be too different for others who have connected with this band before.

    in reply to: Picture Captions #9163

    brotagaia
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    I was thinking more along the lines of

    "Hey come over here guys you gotta try this – it’s like kissing a peanut!"

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