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I was wondering where the site went.I guess everyone has been wondering what happen to it.But since pumpkins.com was updated i stopped really using it.Or i come here Spfreaks and use it forums.Are they starting over or what,be interesting to know really.Because i went over to thepumpkins.tk
and bare is the word for it,sad to say
Clearly i had to tell that i am very Educated,for some reason you didn’t think I didn’t know what yank meant.Clearly a 2 year old knows what it is and means.Very much of insult to me.
No ,i don’t always agree with peoples opinion.I don’t argue with people here online.For that fact is it is sinceless and immature to do so.I see no point in it.I also see no point in blowing something out of the water ,that wasn’t meant to be something you thought it was.If you don’t like what someone says,it best to not say nothing ask them what they mean first before you jump and start something or say something about it.As for being off the subject stop again adding fuel to the fire.We all can get along.Don’t be so super senative,like person said they didn’t mean what you thought,you blow it up to something it not.I’m done commenting on the subject period.
by the way Kit’n you rock,someone jump for nothing and you be the bigger person about it.That’s totally kwel in my book.Hats off to ya.
okay this thing needs to stop…
billy has stated numerous times at concerts that he’s single, and even stated in clear that he doesn’t have a wife, he’s looking for a "fine woman".. yadda yadda
isn’t this proof enough?? she even makes excuses for her story to make sense, like happily married men don’t have to wear a wedding ring…to make reality fit to her story (billy aint wearing a ring)
and WTF is her obession with David Cronenberg?? He’d better watch out as well.
I shouldn’t even have said even that much…because it’s just more attention… this really should be the end of this topic…[/quote:y6h9tr4r]
I agree totally,this women is just out their..Billy has stated many times he is single.I see a possible restraining order coming.I would never believe that Billy is married to this women,unless he says he is.How many times does the man got to state that he single for some to get it.This is gossip and about it,we need not to keep feeding into fantasy stories and nut people with their fantasy marriage.
I don’t argue with people.I was born and raised in America.I’m very educated.Your blowing things out of the water.And reading stuff into something that is not there.Have a nice day.
To tell you the honest truth, I never really was that fond of Americans (sorry for those yanks out there). But I learned that it’s not the people I dislike, but it’s the politics I really don’t like. And from what I’ve heard a lot of Americans disagree with what’s going on with the wars and such as well. So now, I’ve learned to love the people… ah… isn’t that cute?
Kit’n[/quote:27yqjgbk]
This was not meant as any insult or a racial slur. If you took the time to read the post.Or did they mean any insult by it.It’s their cultural ways.I am American myself and took no insult to it.This is a forum board with many people and opinions as i see it.THEY ALL have the right to voice theirs as they see it here.I seen no hate coming from no one here.We were having a chat that start from this comment which we all took it in the wrong way, because it was a song.
Well I’m proud to be an American, where at least I know I’m free.[/quote:27yqjgbk]
You make it sound like America is the only place where people are free.[/quote:27yqjgbk]It’s a song. A very cheesy song.[/quote:27yqjgbk][/quote:27yqjgbk]
I seen no one being insulting or being immature but all of us having a mature chat about our post.Only person that took things in the wrong way was you.Not to be rude luxe,but did you actually read the whole chat.
If you are truly a Christian person you wouldn’t stand and fight with a person about God, in all honesty.[/quote:28aiareo]
Actually, that’s what the Crusades were. Some people still believe that not fighting and engaging and spreading the word of Christ is failing as a Christian. They feel it is part of being Christian, to spread the gospel and that all non-Christians will go to hell. So, in a way, it’s out of a good place, they want everyone to go to heaven. But, if you don’t believe in it, you don’t believe in it. More people die over religion I think than anything else. What a holy cause.[/quote:28aiareo]
You take what i mean out context.Maybe i’m not reflecting it in the right way either.You catch more flies with honey,then you do with vinegar.Forcing,arguing,shoving God down someones throat doesn’t bring God to the non believer.I know this to well and know this type of Christian. It doesn’t work believe me.
If you approach a person as a friend not enemy.Not like it a local wrestling match or a battle.A person is not placed lower then you but as your equal.You’ll fine you’ll reach more people and hearts this way.You should be more humble in nature.A new forum of Christians are rising as a new coming .Not to sound weird or crazy in anyway.But we are.We all change, so do US Christians in ways.I have very different outlook on things,just me I guess.Your not going save no one if you alienate them.
Isn’t his sock so sexy hehe,
Love the striped socks makes me think of toe socks,
if anyone knows what they are, which i own rainbow and black &white striped one lol
i think it may have more to do with ancestry rather than the current state of affairs.[/quote:1q58rlhd]
This is true no matter where your from.Even us American’s it is about ancestry.
But in all honesty to all that don’t live in the states,that do voice their opinions on how they see America.From one American i can truly tell you.What you see in our,Politics isn’t reflecting what the average person wants or believes in..Politicians in my opinion have lost sight of what the American people really want or even think.I know not one person that is running in our Presidential Race,i do agree with and does not reflect my views at all.In politics they more reflect what they want and it’s their opinion.Even tho we get to vote for who is President,when come down to it,they do what they want.This is in any political system from what I’ve seen .Why i NEVER judge a person from where their from.
I’m against death penalty
I’m against fire arms.
I’m not against religion ,but again as i said above don’t define a person into a little box,even a Christian into a little box.I don’t believe in forcing religion onto someone because it doesn’t work.But I should be allowed to say word GOd without a war or a battle.I’m not the type to argue no since in it.If a man truly doesnt want to hear about religion & GOD.What he believes in you aren’t going to change what he or she believes.That just leads to battling and arguing with words crossed to each other that you shouldn’t say to a person.If you are truly a Christian person you wouldn’t stand and fight with a person about God, in all honesty.Well I’m proud to be an American, where at least I know I’m free.[/quote:15q4960a]
Amen to that!Very proud to be Asian & American.Politics should never define who a single person is.No one is the same.We each and all are different.We shouldn’t be define into a little box .Because someone doesn’t like what ONE person reflects,in another countries politics.I wish to not be judged by another man mistakes.But by my own merit.Then if i am judged, it is my maker who i worry about and answer to for mistakes,not another man in my opinion.American or whatever you are or where every your from , i care less.Respect me,i respect you.You got to learn to love people for who they are,not where they come from.
However, though the wrongness is obvious, we may find it very difficult to list the features of the scene which account for the wrongness. We discover wrongness through observing natural properties with our five senses. Can we list the necessary and sufficient conditions such that any action which satisfies these conditions is wrong? The Ethical Naturalist thinks that in principle, we can. For naturalists, rightness and wrongness are nothing more than certain combinations of natural, non-evaluative properties. Since we can in principle build mechanical detectors for all these natural properties, the Ethical Naturalist thinks wrongness is something that a machine could eventually detect. The ethical intuitionist typically disagrees (although, it is not essential to the view): they see a wide concept
Sorry this got long.But Billy has made his point in his blog post.Him himself quoted sentimentalism in the context of preserving that which meant something to our ancestors and therefore is encoded secretly in our dna is something I am raptuous aboutâ¦
His Blog post seem to come from a more spiritual side of Billy.I seen not a whack-o post here.I seen a lot of remembrance and thinking to pass things and to future here.A very well thought out post.Billy so scriptive in writing in code like style at times.Trying to figure him out at times is like trying to figure out a age old secret in time.lol..Which we never have or will solve.
*Quote by billy*â¦
I believe God talks to me at each and every moment of my life, the only problem being that I don’t listenâ¦God does not want any of us to be unhappy, or to mourn for that which has no meaningâ¦thanks to digital media, many of us can and will be remembered in perpetuity by an unseen future, but they probably won’t bother to watchâ¦my guess is our images and sounds will seem as archaic to them as images and sounds from the beginnings of the 20th century sound to us nowâ¦so fighting for the preservation of values that don’t matter now and will matter even less down the road seems a sad waste of energyâ¦I am happy to be a warrior of light and universal logic if I am fighting for the good in usâ¦sentimentalism in and of itself is a form of deathâ¦sentimentalism in the context of preserving that which meant something to our ancestors and therefore is encoded secretly in our dna is something I am raptuous aboutâ¦if God is love is truth, than you are that to meâ¦SP stands at the center of my musical truth, and mirrors how god stands for me in the center of all truthâ¦I would hope we can faithfully copy that paradigm, and always stay focused on what really mattersâ¦we may not always be what you want, but we do have what you need!Don’t everyone get in up in arms about this god thing.. a large part of the pumpkins earlier music was about questioning if god even exists or what that even means. god has always been present in the music. Even I seen this being a very new fan here of the pumpkins.
Sentimentalism-An optimistic overemphasis of the goodness of humanity (sensibility), representing in part a reaction against Calvinism, which regarded human nature as depraved. The novel of sensibility was developed from this 18th century notion, manifested in the Sentimental novel.
In reference to the historical movement of Sentimentalism within the United States of America during the 18th century, Sentimentalism was a European-spawned idea that emphasized feelings and emotions, a physical appreciation of God, nature, and other people, rather than logic and reason. The impact on the American people was that love became as important in marriage as financial considerations.
Moral sense theory (also known as sentimentalism)
The moral sense is often described as providing information in a way analogous to other sensory modalities, such as sight in the perception of colors. It is contrasted with the way in which one acquires a priori, non-empirical knowledge, such as mathematical knowledge for example.
One way to understand the moral sense is to draw an analogy between it and other kinds of senses. Beauty is something we see in some faces, artworks and landscapes. We can also hear it in some pieces of music. We clearly do not need an independent aesthetic sense faculty to perceive beauty in the world. Our ordinary five senses are quite enough to observe it, though merely observing something beautiful is not by itself enough to appreciate its beauty. Suppose we give a name to this ability to appreciate the beauty in things we see: letâs call it the aesthetic sense. This aesthetic sense does not come automatically to all people with perfect vision and hearing, so it is fair to describe it as something extra, something not wholly reducible to vision and hearing. As the aesthetic sense informs us about what is beautiful, we can analogically understand the moral sense as informing us of what is good. People with a functioning moral sense get a clear impression of wrongness when they see puppies being kicked, for example.
Ya it was funny.Even for me.I’ve never really watched wrestling.I don’t watch T.V much.So I laughed pretty hard when Billy hit the guy with a guitar.Just a little violent but funny
Because it’s Billy.The NFL and Smashing Pumpkins have always been closely linked. Seems only natural to bring it up.
[/quote:31sm7rwf]Totally true..ha!
Bronco’s and Vikings for me.
Even tho Colt’s killed the bronco’s last SundayI’m sorry I DO NOT like MCR,panic at the disco,greenday or any other what i like to call poser rock bands of today.Are any of these bands better then the pumpkins? ….NOWAY..Give me old school rock & roll.The led,Pink Floyd,Bad Company,Boston,Bachman turner overdrive,Blue Oyster Cult.Love classic rock,they knew how to do it.Today’s rock in the most part,is a let down.Rarely in music today you fine a good band like the PUMPKINS,were it’s hard to even fine a favorite song when u listen to them.I have so many favorites of their’s it beyond belief..
..Not to many bands in my book can hold that title. PUMPKINS<3Welcome to the board ladyn and thanks for sharing the infor.I doubt they are married.Look at VG spreading these rumors and that marriage journal thing over the net.It was just plain weird what she had wrote there on her site on the net.I would hope Billy would marry someone more sane
If your someone who’s married to someone this popular and want to keep it low key,u wont posted it all over the net.VG seems to be using Billy popularity to.How can actually do that to someone you love anyway.To gain some kind of popularity,very lame and cheesy on her part.Only part that worries me that Billy is safe and she being watched closely.I think all fan are worried on that part,i mean the sane ones are.
i just love this women singing,everything she sings.So a few of her vid’s that I like.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW8U2AHWTn0[/youtube][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLfpian_dCQ[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX6WHvxTYHs[/youtube]
My favorite three vid’s
but obsessed… yes, me too.[/quote:1sc8c94p]
I think we all have a healthy obsession here with the pumpkins
This is where the Spfreaks hang 
But all us agree VG obsession is to the point of very unhealthy and to most part stalking…
I just hope for Billy sake it doesn’t become something more serious .I mean you hear horror story’s of really serious fan stalking.So I hope all is ok for Billy,and their keeping a watch on VG.You never know.As far as wanting to know anything else about this women VG,ha..i dont.Dang,didn’t know it was already posted
I’m not a person that watches wrestling..lol.But totally laughed at thisI don’t understand why Billy hasn’t made a statement or something on the matter.[/quote:30xt8qhs]
either billy likes the attention of such old friend? or hes not bothered anyway? or its just a hoax to keep us fans busy….. who knows[/quote:30xt8qhs]I think it’s like bleedingtheorchid says Billy just leaving it open for us,just to keep our curious minds busy.I don’t know if billy like the attention tho,what guy would like a mental female stalking him?!!?Be afraid guys ,very afraid muahah
jk jk.But there’s a slight humorous side to all this u must admit.I liked that song manillascissor.Another one of my liked songs.I’m a big fan of Red:)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SJPCdafnLo[/youtube]Either one doesn’t matter doesn’t have to be a pumpkin one.Just curious about what type of music all listen to here,beside the pumpkins.
Ok, the girl is officially a nut-job…[/quote:1wk3lyg5]
Took the words right out of,all our mouths..
Ha! Bleeding the orchid,never seen that vid.
