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    • #968

      confuciousconfusing
      Spectator

      This song titled \"FOL\" is supposed to come out on a Hyundai Commercial during the Super Bowl.

      http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/i … ank-black/

    • #31606

      Pipoka
      Spectator

      Yes i knew it, but only that.. no more details about it

    • #31607

      Kuumar
      Spectator

      Do you think it’s going to be just a 30 second new song? or a whole new song?

      I guess no more albums :( This is how its going to be. A new song every so often months

    • #31608

      Pipoka
      Spectator

      I don’t know but i don’t believe they will do 30sec song for a commercial.
      I think it’s a new song that will be used on the commercial.

      Just wondering what \"FOL\" means… :roll:

    • #31609

      Kuumar
      Spectator

      well i heard it was going to be played in the background of the commercial for the whole 30 seconds. How would it sound? how does a car commercial sound?

    • #31610

      manillascissor
      Keymaster

      car commercials use songs ALL THE TIME. this isn’t that big of news really.

      i think FOL stands for Freak On a Leash.

    • #31611

      Marcella
      Spectator

      I think it stands for Fuck Off Loserdude124

    • #31612

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      nice one Marce ^^ :lol:

      i will be at work when it comes on. i’m sure the superbowl will be on in the waiting room though so i will see it.

      and if someone comes into the ER dying when it comes on they will have to wait for the pumpkins. 8)

    • #31613

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      Just like anything they do, the 30 sec clip gave me goosebumps

    • #31614

      Danni
      Spectator

      Ah man. Billy, just go back to releasing vinyls again…. :roll:

    • #31615

      I think it stands for Fuck Off Loserdude124[/quote:1t3y2vmr]
      I was thinking exactly the same thing. This can’t be a coincidence. So it’s official now.

    • #31616

      ObscureD
      Spectator

      this song sucks… :cry:

    • #31617

      amnesia
      Spectator

      this song sucks… :cry:[/quote:2q9l2ax2]

      :?: :?: :?:

      What you mean by that.

      Is it released on the internet or what ?

      Or did i just miss the whole point :P

    • #31618

      amnesia
      Spectator

      Ah man. Billy, just go back to releasing vinyls again…. :roll:[/quote:321qtov9]

      I hear you, billy and jimmi should head back in to the studios and make us a new album, but i doubt that will ever happiend again. :(

    • #31619

      Arthur
      Spectator

      It can be listened already here.

      http://spin.com/articles/sneak-peek-sma … -bowl-song

      I think it’s not bad at all. The distorted guitar makes me long for the whole song.

    • #31620

      i loved the little bit that was on the comercial. made me want a whole song.

      i don’t know why everyone has to get all up in arms over a comercial, oh and it is called feel our love.

    • #31621

      Kuumar
      Spectator

      The audio quality sucks, I’m just gonna have to listen to the real commercial.

    • #31622

      jawn till dusk
      Spectator

      I’m not generally one to say a Pumpkins track is good when its not,but that sounds promising!

      In saying that,if that is the chorus/main hook or whatever,then it’s a bit flat…..like G.L.O.W.

      In saying that(part two),G.L.O.W. is at it’s best for that 1 min outro!

      :?
      :lol:
      :?:

      Sorry.(vodka and redbull).

    • #31623

      Tion
      Spectator

      the first time i heard it it reminded me of glow, too.
      got the same/similar power and noise//drumsequence….

      i watched the commercial a dozen times….sound quality sucks, song rocks!! :P

      has anyone heard the whole song? (there is a whole song, right??)

    • #31624

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      i like the sound of it. it is a bit GLOW, but it sounds cool no less. i want to hear the rest though. :wink:

    • #31625

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      I love the people who say it sucks and it is heartless…. come on… the song was written for a commercial… for a CAR
      It’s not like he’s going to be pining away for lost love or writing some intricate puzzle of words over a car ;)

    • #31626

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      I fricken loved the 30 seconds of what I heard. Well if you count replays then it’s was a few minutes worth:lol:
      Well anyhoot, me and another Pumpkin head thought it had a Machina II vibe to it. I can;t wait to get the whole song
      Billy :?: hello whole song soon please.

    • #31627

      manillascissor
      Keymaster

      It has a total Zeitgeist vibe to it, and I hate Zeitgeist for the most part.

      However, I’m digging this song.

      :?:

    • #31628

      Marcella
      Spectator

      It’s a bit repetitive for my taste but still, I can’t judge unless I hear the whole thing =).

    • #31629

      i agree with you marce, i don’t think a 30 second clip is enough to judge the song by. i liked what i heard but i want to hear the whole thing too.

      and as far as it being written for a car commercial, my theory is that billy would still write something with meaning, even if it is for a car commercial i think he would still write from his heart.

    • #31630

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      i agree with you marce, i don’t think a 30 second clip is enough to judge the song by. i liked what i heard but i want to hear the whole thing too.

      and as far as it being written for a car commercial, my theory is that billy would still write something with meaning, even if it is for a car commercial i think he would still write from his heart.[/quote:2djihkta]

      I agree with both of these thoughts…. what I meant was more that the 30 seconds wouldn’t reflect his style of writing

    • #31631

      Sven
      Spectator

      First-

      Do we KNOW this track WAS written for the ad?
      Hyundai enlisted TSP to track the ad…
      So?
      Why the fuck wouldn’t BC and JC pull a non-finished jam from the Zeitgeist-sessions (indeed: it sounds quite a lot like GLOW) and then sell it for the ad?
      Basically that’s in line with the press-release, isn’t it?

      Or- secondly-

      Do we BELIEVE or KNOW BC and JC (and possible others) went into the studio to record this song?

      I just don’t buy it-
      For me-
      It’s like Hyundai wanted TSP-
      TSP had a left-over track which wasn’t too bad when tailored to 30 secs-
      This edit was sold-
      Hyundai happy – TSP happy (and somewhat money earned, deservedly) – plus: some publicity gained!
      Fair deal on both parts –
      Tadah!

      The song just doesn’t seem to match the vibe of the images or anything-
      It’s a score to the ad and that’s that-
      And that’s what the press release tells us-
      It DOESN’T however EXPLICITELY say so the song was commisioned and written and recorded for the ad—-

      So, well yeah, some 30 secs of unheard material-
      That’s all folks-
      And Hyundai happy and TSP happy and merry and some marketing bonus points!
      Clever move-
      But I just don’t think this was MADE for the ad-
      But that’s just my idea of this all—-

    • #31632

      Danni
      Spectator

      Found it alright. Well I must admit it sounds probably ten times better than G.L.O.W even for the 30 seconds.

      Here it is: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ydCe1TH1k

    • #31633

      ObscureD
      Spectator

      This song is like GLOW with a lot of \"come on… come on…\" and I don’t like Billy’s voice (a quiet voice with a punchy music)

    • #31634

      amnesia
      Spectator

      I so want to hear the whole song, it sounds really good and i like Billys quiet voice. 8)

    • #31635

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      i like Billy’s quiet voice too :wink:

    • #31636

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      Sven,
      HipstersUnited quoted from http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hyundai-kicks-off-super-bowl/story.aspx?guid={6EAF9955-5BC0-4583-92C8-83F25576E5A2}&dist=msr_8

      \"The Smashing Pumpkins band members and cellist Yo-Yo Ma will each perform songs to accompany uniquely edited 30-second spots, tailored to their brand of music by editor Hank Corwin. Hyundai selected the Smashing Pumpkins spot to be featured immediately before the kick off of Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, February 1, 2009.\"

      It sounds to me like the song was made for the commercial and not just a leftover
      This is just my opinion from what I’ve read so far

      I do agree with the above post that it has a GLOW feel, especially with the \"come on come on\"

    • #31637

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      i don’t know. it does sound very GLOW very Zeitgeist. and that quote in the above post makes it sound like the images were edited to the music.

    • #31638

      Marcella
      Spectator

      I don’t really think we’re going to get to hear the whole thing…It’s pessimist of my part but that’s the vibe I’m getting.

    • #31639

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      I don’t really think we’re going to get to hear the whole thing…It’s pessimist of my part but that’s the vibe I’m getting.[/quote:uf65uh80]

      You’ll be able to download the whole thing tomorrow on the car’s website. When you go to watch the video if you hover over it, you’ll see a small text appear at the bottom right that says "download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1

    • #31640

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      i don’t know. it does sound very GLOW very Zeitgeist. and that quote in the above post makes it sound like the images were edited to the music.[/quote:349o7ctr]

      Yeah, I went back to the website and what they did was film the car driving around, and then let the people crop and cut and reorganize the video themselves. You can do it too

    • #31641

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      "download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:262nnzah]

      the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?

    • #31642

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      "download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:1dnxpnxh]

      the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?[/quote:1dnxpnxh]

      http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/coupe/def … RL=gallery

      It took me a couple tries to get the text to show up

    • #31643

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      sure enough- kick ass! :P

    • #31644

      Marcella
      Spectator

      Well that’s definitely good.

    • #31645

      manillascissor
      Keymaster

      "download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:197l8dmq]

      the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?[/quote:197l8dmq]

      http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/coupe/def … RL=gallery

      It took me a couple tries to get the text to show up[/quote:197l8dmq]

      I just tried making my own edit, but the fucking browser or my connection can’t keep up, so I have no clue what it’s really doing. Shame, I would have really tried to edit something awesome.

    • #31646

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      "download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:2dxjopcg]

      the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?[/quote:2dxjopcg]

      http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/coupe/def … RL=gallery

      It took me a couple tries to get the text to show up[/quote:2dxjopcg]

      I just tried making my own edit, but the fucking browser or my connection can’t keep up, so I have no clue what it’s really doing. Shame, I would have really tried to edit something awesome.[/quote:2dxjopcg]

      Mine is spazzing out right now too. I keep having to restart everything… but it’s probably because my husband is on my laptop gaming online and taking up all our bandwidth

    • #31647

      some pumpkins
      Spectator

      this song is either old or new, but was not written FOR the ccommercial. they did the same thing for thats the way in the ford focus commercials, like a year ago. you dont put old songs in commercials, unless they are old hits that everybody can recognize. i think its clearly for promoting a new song.

    • #31648

      Pipoka
      Spectator

      this song is either old or new, but was not written FOR the ccommercial. they did the same thing for thats the way in the ford focus commercials, like a year ago. you dont put old songs in commercials, unless they are old hits that everybody can recognize. i think its clearly for promoting a new song.[/quote:10yzgxp1]

      exactely… like manilla said, this is nothing new
      i have to hear it ! i have been so busy…

      *edit*

      didn’t saw the previous page with the links… :lol:
      just heard it and i can’t say that i like or dislike because it’s just 30 seconds!!! but it doesn’t sound bad… can’t wait to have the full version.

    • #31649

      Danni
      Spectator

      Smashing Pumpkins 2009 Hyundai Tour is brought to you by Hyundai Genesis and Kentucky Fried Chickens!

    • #31650

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      I can’t wait to hear the whole song!!

    • #31651

      Arthur
      Spectator

      Smashing Pumpkins 2009 Hyundai Tour is brought to you by Hyundai Genesis and Kentucky Fried Chickens![/quote:2ja7fssg]

      :lol: :lol: :lol:

    • #31652

      Danni
      Spectator

      So when and were can you download FOL?

    • #31653

      Im a Cult Hero
      Spectator

      So when and were can you download FOL?[/quote:2t0f888o]

      [url:2t0f888o]http://download.hyundaigenesis.com/RegistrationPage.aspx?downloadfilename=billy.mp3[/url:2t0f888o]

      I’m not really too fond of it TBH, the vocals feel a bit passionless, but the melody is catchy *shrugs* it’s ok, I’d like to hear it live before I really make a call on it though.

    • #31654

      amnesia
      Spectator

      Cant get the link to work, probo overload, but thanks Cult Hero. :wink:

    • #31655

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      I love it :)
      Sounds great! Mayo I hope you get it to work soon :)

    • #31656

      amnesia
      Spectator

      I love it :)
      Sounds great! Mayo I hope you get it to work soon :)[/quote:7e9li9yk]

      Yay got it, i FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!
      I think its better then Glow, even though Glow kicked serious ass, this is just to good.

      Only minus its fucking short.

    • #31657

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      i won’t have it for at least 5 or 6 more hours :( damn my job :?

    • #31658

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      i won’t have it for at least 5 or 6 more hours :( damn my job :?[/quote:2kkhjy4v]

      :x :x
      how about this?
      It’s a damn good song blue..damn good

    • #31659

      amnesia
      Spectator

      That sucks Blue, feel sorry for you honey. :(

      I have it on replay on my winamp, 5 times so far and still counting. :wink:

    • #31660

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      it does suck :x but i will have it on my ipod by the end of the day :wink: so i should focus on the bright side

    • #31661

      Daysofthephoenix
      Spectator

      I’m downloading it now but it won’t be done downloading for a while since I have dial-up.
      Curse my wait.

      I hope it’s as good as you guys say it is. :)

    • #31662

      some pumpkins
      Spectator

      what a catchy ass song! i love the transition from the fast to slow tempos

    • #31663

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      Oh blue, I do feel for you :(

    • #31664

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      Oh blue, I do feel for you :([/quote:3jce0qsv]

      i know! i feel like i need some pity. :( everybody has heard it but me. :( i will feel better when i get home though. :wink:

    • #31665

      manillascissor
      Keymaster

      i just saw it on tv! cool! 8)

    • #31666

      some pumpkins
      Spectator

      Oh blue, I do feel for you :([/quote:1n93sb2j]

      i know! i feel like i need some pity. :( everybody has heard it but me. :( i will feel better when i get home though. :wink:[/quote:1n93sb2j]

      it’ll put you in a good mood after you hear it blue. i think im rooting or the cardinals

    • #31667

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      i’m sure it will :wink:

    • #31668

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      looks like the Steelers might have this game!!

    • #31669

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      YAY! FINALLY I GET TO FEEL THE LOVE!!!!! i’m home and i’m listening to the new song. :D :D :D :D :D :D

      i like it! its catchy :D

    • #31670

      Marcella
      Spectator

      Very catchy indeed! I do feel there’s something lacking in the vocals but I’m one exigent little brat. :lol:

      AND HOORAY !!!

    • #31671

      Sven
      Spectator

      now that’s the full song has been released-

      referring back to my post questioning if this song was commisioned for, written and recorded for, whatever… the Hyunadia-ad…
      i think we can now clearly and sufficiently conclude or at least assume THAT wasn’t the case—-

      Fear of Love (FOL) has nothing to do at the content level with the ad or whatever-

      Fear of Love (FOL) however to me does sound like a latter day Zeitgeist song-
      I just wouldn’t say – based on the sound and feel of FOH this is a pure Zeitgeist out-take-
      However— FOH kinda lacks the bitter anger and spite and vitriol of Superchrist and GLOW—-

      Somehow I tend to kinda somehow, somewhere see FOH fit into the true but latter day Zeitgeist sessions-

      So-
      1- I’d say FOL was NOT recorded AFTER Zeitgeist and/or the Zeitgeist sessions-
      2- I’d say FOL was NOT recorded like GLOW and Superchrist after the album, but somewhere with the album tracks-
      3- I’d say FOL was, if NOT recorded with the album tracks, recorded in one flow with either GLOW or Superchrist…. it’s a stomper, a jam, a flow of sorts… it DOES reminder me somewhat of the 1996/1997-era and riffs like in the Pastichio Medley, parts of which were rehashed for GLOW, weren’t they?
      4- I’d say— whenever, wherever (I’m trying to figure this out though and maybe I’m succesful and you’ll read something about it on the PMM-section of SP.com, working on it, just don’t COUNT on it…) FOL was recorded and all— what we see and hear now is, apart from GLOW (which DID get a digital official download release through standard download outlets), the fist instance of a TSP song being released totally devoid of any normal music industry way of distribution and thus this maybe a pointer towards the future—-

      So-
      Apart from my mourned lack of a physical release format-
      I totally mourn the lack of liner notes and credits-
      So maybe we’ll learn something about the genises and recording of FOL soon-
      Or maybe we as SPFreaks will have to content ourselves with the sounds—-
      As we started out all along-
      And bear the burden of the public at large’s non-interest in formats, figures, credits and whatever-
      And thus bear the burder of SPFreaks’s lack of hard info on this song’s recording et al….

      Well-
      Still—-
      For me it all started with the sound-
      For me FOL still brings me the NEW sound of TSP-
      Which means TSP is still alive and kicking-
      And thus moving now and into a new future-
      Thus-
      As much as I think FOL is NOT a totally awesome song (yet way more rocking than a lot of the \"new\" or residency songs!!!) it proces TSP is here and now and alive and moving and breathing and releasing and forging ahead in creativity – either if FOL proves to be genuine NEW song or if FOL proves to be a shelved Zeitgeist-track; in the form of release of FOL….

      All credit so still and above all to TSP for the release of FOL!!!

      Wait and see what happens next-
      Something tells me we just ain’t seen nothing yet in the ways of TSP getting their creativity and sound(s) out there-
      Bringing it all back to where it all started with-
      Bringing it all back to where TSP has always at the core and heart and soul’s been about—-

      THE SOUND!!!!
      And nothing but it ;))))

      And-
      Apart from our freaky collections-
      Aren’t we above all in liove with the sound?
      So-
      There you have it- surprise surprise totally—-
      A NEW FULL SONG!!!—-

      Enjoy?!!!!

    • #31672

      Doubtful-Della
      Spectator

      I had a really crappy night,
      So getting to finally download this has made me at least feel better.
      I like this song better than GLOW. I think it has more movement, more shifts in the sound. I agree that there are a few flat parts, but the overall feeling makes me want to get up and move. I’ve love to hear this one live!

    • #31673

      Im a Cult Hero
      Spectator

      It took a lot of listens, but the song has grown on me, I like it a lot more now, it won’t be making my fave pumpkin songs list any time soon, but it will probably be stuck in my head for some time :)

    • #31674

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      Have to agree with Sven it’s definitely got that Pumpkins sound going on!!!
      Love it still. I went to bed last night listening to it and keep replaying it, so I didn’t get to bed for about 45 minutes later…

    • #31675

      some pumpkins
      Spectator

      nice blog sven. only one thing. i think its \"feel\" our love

    • #31676

      Shannen
      Spectator

      I only listen to a tiny piece of it this morning. And FINALLY I get to listen to the whole piece from youtube.com. I find it a bit cheesy with the repitition – no offence!

      – P E A C E –

      [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyqMdBGoas[/youtube]

    • #31677

      Marcella
      Spectator

      I agree in the repetition part. Don’t take me wrong, I LOVE to hear new stuff but repetition is that one thing that can make me dislike a song. Luckily this is not the case; I love SP too much to hate any of their songs, old and new.

    • #31678

      Tion
      Spectator

      i hear Feel Our Love, too…
      does billy sing :\" i lick the polish crome\"..?
      FUNNY :P

    • #31679

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      well on the o-board the lyrics were posted and they say licked the polish chrome

      I took these off TSP.net

      I sent your love about
      I know there’s death around
      I catch the damage in the air
      I’ve got the skull and bones
      I lick the polished chrome
      There’s magic everywhere

      Can I please just talk to you
      Feelings deep and draining blue
      A useless line (mind)
      Come on and feel our love

      Feel our love
      If love ain’t too much
      Follow the white hot sun
      What I’ve sown I’ve split in half
      Now it’s always however you impart
      Love is always on fire

      A single cross to bear
      The TV crews are there
      Where we want with dirty knives
      The night begins a waste
      It’s all a bit too fake
      Someone kill the lights

      Famine’s something I can do
      Towers splits I haven’t used
      If I want I can’t refuse
      It’s useless now

      Come on and feel our love
      I know there’s death above
      Come on and feel our love

      Feel our love
      If love ain’t enough
      Follow the white hot sun
      Turn back to the one
      What I’ve sown I’ve split in half
      So now it’s always however you impart
      Love is always on fire

      Feel our love
      Come on and feel our love
      Feel our love

    • #31680

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      Here’s the art I did for F.O.L.

    • #31681

      Marcella
      Spectator

      ^ SO cool.

    • #31682

      some pumpkins
      Spectator

      very cool reggae! you’re the featured image on sp.com

    • #31683

      amnesia
      Spectator

      That art is very cool.Well done. :)

    • #31684

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      Here is one more I am going to post over there too

    • #31685

      amnesia
      Spectator

      This one is cool as well, but i like the first one a lil better. :wink:

    • #31686

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      i like the first one a little better too, but very cool. :)

    • #31687

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      I like it, but yeah I’m more fond of my other one. I was playing with their heart logo on this one :)

    • #31688

      blueczarina
      Spectator

      oh yeah, i just thought those were swirls. i see it now. :)

    • #31689

      Pipoka
      Spectator

      very cool raggae :D

    • #31690

      Anonymous
      Spectator

      Now if he will make a single for the song..and use my art for it…wishful thinking ;)
      but it would be so cool and such an honor!

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