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2009.01.29 at 9:23 pm #968
confuciousconfusingSpectatorThis song titled \"FOL\" is supposed to come out on a Hyundai Commercial during the Super Bowl.
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2009.01.29 at 9:40 pm #31606
PipokaSpectatorYes i knew it, but only that.. no more details about it
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2009.01.29 at 9:43 pm #31607
KuumarSpectatorDo you think it’s going to be just a 30 second new song? or a whole new song?
I guess no more albums This is how its going to be. A new song every so often months
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2009.01.29 at 9:53 pm #31608
PipokaSpectatorI don’t know but i don’t believe they will do 30sec song for a commercial.
I think it’s a new song that will be used on the commercial.Just wondering what \"FOL\" means…
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2009.01.29 at 10:03 pm #31609
KuumarSpectatorwell i heard it was going to be played in the background of the commercial for the whole 30 seconds. How would it sound? how does a car commercial sound?
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2009.01.29 at 11:02 pm #31610
manillascissorKeymastercar commercials use songs ALL THE TIME. this isn’t that big of news really.
i think FOL stands for Freak On a Leash.
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2009.01.29 at 11:17 pm #31611
MarcellaSpectatorI think it stands for Fuck Off Loserdude124
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2009.01.30 at 1:19 am #31612
blueczarinaSpectatornice one Marce ^^
i will be at work when it comes on. i’m sure the superbowl will be on in the waiting room though so i will see it.
and if someone comes into the ER dying when it comes on they will have to wait for the pumpkins.
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2009.01.30 at 5:54 am #31613
Doubtful-DellaSpectatorJust like anything they do, the 30 sec clip gave me goosebumps
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2009.01.30 at 6:51 am #31614
DanniSpectatorAh man. Billy, just go back to releasing vinyls again….
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2009.01.30 at 7:57 am #31615
Cool As Ice CreamSpectatorI think it stands for Fuck Off Loserdude124[/quote:1t3y2vmr]
I was thinking exactly the same thing. This can’t be a coincidence. So it’s official now. -
2009.01.30 at 9:06 am #31616
ObscureDSpectatorthis song sucks…
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2009.01.30 at 11:33 am #31617
amnesiaSpectatorthis song sucks… [/quote:2q9l2ax2]
What you mean by that.
Is it released on the internet or what ?
Or did i just miss the whole point
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2009.01.30 at 11:35 am #31618
amnesiaSpectatorAh man. Billy, just go back to releasing vinyls again…. [/quote:321qtov9]
I hear you, billy and jimmi should head back in to the studios and make us a new album, but i doubt that will ever happiend again.
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2009.01.30 at 11:41 am #31619
ArthurSpectatorIt can be listened already here.
http://spin.com/articles/sneak-peek-sma … -bowl-song
I think it’s not bad at all. The distorted guitar makes me long for the whole song.
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2009.01.30 at 12:19 pm #31620
bullettwoutbutterflywingsSpectatori loved the little bit that was on the comercial. made me want a whole song.
i don’t know why everyone has to get all up in arms over a comercial, oh and it is called feel our love.
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2009.01.30 at 2:29 pm #31621
KuumarSpectatorThe audio quality sucks, I’m just gonna have to listen to the real commercial.
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2009.01.30 at 5:18 pm #31622
jawn till duskSpectatorI’m not generally one to say a Pumpkins track is good when its not,but that sounds promising!
In saying that,if that is the chorus/main hook or whatever,then it’s a bit flat…..like G.L.O.W.
In saying that(part two),G.L.O.W. is at it’s best for that 1 min outro!
Sorry.(vodka and redbull).
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2009.01.30 at 5:58 pm #31623
TionSpectatorthe first time i heard it it reminded me of glow, too.
got the same/similar power and noise//drumsequence….i watched the commercial a dozen times….sound quality sucks, song rocks!!
has anyone heard the whole song? (there is a whole song, right??)
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2009.01.30 at 7:21 pm #31624
blueczarinaSpectatori like the sound of it. it is a bit GLOW, but it sounds cool no less. i want to hear the rest though.
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2009.01.30 at 9:31 pm #31625
Doubtful-DellaSpectatorI love the people who say it sucks and it is heartless…. come on… the song was written for a commercial… for a CAR
It’s not like he’s going to be pining away for lost love or writing some intricate puzzle of words over a car -
2009.01.30 at 10:39 pm #31626
AnonymousSpectatorI fricken loved the 30 seconds of what I heard. Well if you count replays then it’s was a few minutes worth:lol:
Well anyhoot, me and another Pumpkin head thought it had a Machina II vibe to it. I can;t wait to get the whole song
Billy hello whole song soon please. -
2009.01.30 at 11:18 pm #31627
manillascissorKeymasterIt has a total Zeitgeist vibe to it, and I hate Zeitgeist for the most part.
However, I’m digging this song.
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2009.01.30 at 11:47 pm #31628
MarcellaSpectatorIt’s a bit repetitive for my taste but still, I can’t judge unless I hear the whole thing =).
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2009.01.30 at 11:57 pm #31629
last_rose_of_summerSpectatori agree with you marce, i don’t think a 30 second clip is enough to judge the song by. i liked what i heard but i want to hear the whole thing too.
and as far as it being written for a car commercial, my theory is that billy would still write something with meaning, even if it is for a car commercial i think he would still write from his heart.
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2009.01.31 at 1:08 am #31630
Doubtful-DellaSpectatori agree with you marce, i don’t think a 30 second clip is enough to judge the song by. i liked what i heard but i want to hear the whole thing too.
and as far as it being written for a car commercial, my theory is that billy would still write something with meaning, even if it is for a car commercial i think he would still write from his heart.[/quote:2djihkta]
I agree with both of these thoughts…. what I meant was more that the 30 seconds wouldn’t reflect his style of writing
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2009.01.31 at 5:35 am #31631
SvenSpectatorFirst-
Do we KNOW this track WAS written for the ad?
Hyundai enlisted TSP to track the ad…
So?
Why the fuck wouldn’t BC and JC pull a non-finished jam from the Zeitgeist-sessions (indeed: it sounds quite a lot like GLOW) and then sell it for the ad?
Basically that’s in line with the press-release, isn’t it?Or- secondly-
Do we BELIEVE or KNOW BC and JC (and possible others) went into the studio to record this song?
I just don’t buy it-
For me-
It’s like Hyundai wanted TSP-
TSP had a left-over track which wasn’t too bad when tailored to 30 secs-
This edit was sold-
Hyundai happy – TSP happy (and somewhat money earned, deservedly) – plus: some publicity gained!
Fair deal on both parts –
Tadah!The song just doesn’t seem to match the vibe of the images or anything-
It’s a score to the ad and that’s that-
And that’s what the press release tells us-
It DOESN’T however EXPLICITELY say so the song was commisioned and written and recorded for the ad—-So, well yeah, some 30 secs of unheard material-
That’s all folks-
And Hyundai happy and TSP happy and merry and some marketing bonus points!
Clever move-
But I just don’t think this was MADE for the ad-
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2009.01.31 at 9:36 am #31632
DanniSpectatorFound it alright. Well I must admit it sounds probably ten times better than G.L.O.W even for the 30 seconds.
Here it is: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ydCe1TH1k
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2009.01.31 at 1:40 pm #31633
ObscureDSpectatorThis song is like GLOW with a lot of \"come on… come on…\" and I don’t like Billy’s voice (a quiet voice with a punchy music)
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2009.01.31 at 2:21 pm #31634
amnesiaSpectatorI so want to hear the whole song, it sounds really good and i like Billys quiet voice.
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2009.01.31 at 2:26 pm #31635
blueczarinaSpectatori like Billy’s quiet voice too
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2009.01.31 at 3:14 pm #31636
Doubtful-DellaSpectatorSven,
HipstersUnited quoted from http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hyundai-kicks-off-super-bowl/story.aspx?guid={6EAF9955-5BC0-4583-92C8-83F25576E5A2}&dist=msr_8\"The Smashing Pumpkins band members and cellist Yo-Yo Ma will each perform songs to accompany uniquely edited 30-second spots, tailored to their brand of music by editor Hank Corwin. Hyundai selected the Smashing Pumpkins spot to be featured immediately before the kick off of Super Bowl XLIII on Sunday, February 1, 2009.\"
It sounds to me like the song was made for the commercial and not just a leftover
This is just my opinion from what I’ve read so farI do agree with the above post that it has a GLOW feel, especially with the \"come on come on\"
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2009.01.31 at 3:34 pm #31637
blueczarinaSpectatori don’t know. it does sound very GLOW very Zeitgeist. and that quote in the above post makes it sound like the images were edited to the music.
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2009.01.31 at 3:57 pm #31638
MarcellaSpectatorI don’t really think we’re going to get to hear the whole thing…It’s pessimist of my part but that’s the vibe I’m getting.
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2009.01.31 at 4:21 pm #31639
Doubtful-DellaSpectatorI don’t really think we’re going to get to hear the whole thing…It’s pessimist of my part but that’s the vibe I’m getting.[/quote:uf65uh80]
You’ll be able to download the whole thing tomorrow on the car’s website. When you go to watch the video if you hover over it, you’ll see a small text appear at the bottom right that says "download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1
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2009.01.31 at 4:22 pm #31640
Doubtful-DellaSpectatori don’t know. it does sound very GLOW very Zeitgeist. and that quote in the above post makes it sound like the images were edited to the music.[/quote:349o7ctr]
Yeah, I went back to the website and what they did was film the car driving around, and then let the people crop and cut and reorganize the video themselves. You can do it too
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2009.01.31 at 4:31 pm #31641
blueczarinaSpectator"download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:262nnzah]
the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?
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2009.01.31 at 4:37 pm #31642
Doubtful-DellaSpectator"download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:1dnxpnxh]
the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?[/quote:1dnxpnxh]
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/coupe/def … RL=gallery
It took me a couple tries to get the text to show up
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2009.01.31 at 4:41 pm #31643
blueczarinaSpectatorsure enough- kick ass!
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2009.01.31 at 5:14 pm #31644
MarcellaSpectatorWell that’s definitely good.
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2009.01.31 at 5:32 pm #31645
manillascissorKeymaster"download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:197l8dmq]
the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?[/quote:197l8dmq]
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/coupe/def … RL=gallery
It took me a couple tries to get the text to show up[/quote:197l8dmq]
I just tried making my own edit, but the fucking browser or my connection can’t keep up, so I have no clue what it’s really doing. Shame, I would have really tried to edit something awesome.
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2009.01.31 at 5:55 pm #31646
Doubtful-DellaSpectator"download this song" it’s a 7mb file, but you can’t download it until Feb 1[/quote:2dxjopcg]
the song huh? 7 MB- sounds promising. maybe the full song?[/quote:2dxjopcg]
http://www.hyundaigenesis.com/coupe/def … RL=gallery
It took me a couple tries to get the text to show up[/quote:2dxjopcg]
I just tried making my own edit, but the fucking browser or my connection can’t keep up, so I have no clue what it’s really doing. Shame, I would have really tried to edit something awesome.[/quote:2dxjopcg]
Mine is spazzing out right now too. I keep having to restart everything… but it’s probably because my husband is on my laptop gaming online and taking up all our bandwidth
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2009.01.31 at 7:44 pm #31647
some pumpkinsSpectatorthis song is either old or new, but was not written FOR the ccommercial. they did the same thing for thats the way in the ford focus commercials, like a year ago. you dont put old songs in commercials, unless they are old hits that everybody can recognize. i think its clearly for promoting a new song.
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2009.01.31 at 8:11 pm #31648
PipokaSpectatorthis song is either old or new, but was not written FOR the ccommercial. they did the same thing for thats the way in the ford focus commercials, like a year ago. you dont put old songs in commercials, unless they are old hits that everybody can recognize. i think its clearly for promoting a new song.[/quote:10yzgxp1]
exactely… like manilla said, this is nothing new
i have to hear it ! i have been so busy…*edit*
didn’t saw the previous page with the links…
just heard it and i can’t say that i like or dislike because it’s just 30 seconds!!! but it doesn’t sound bad… can’t wait to have the full version. -
2009.01.31 at 8:41 pm #31649
DanniSpectatorSmashing Pumpkins 2009 Hyundai Tour is brought to you by Hyundai Genesis and Kentucky Fried Chickens!
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2009.02.01 at 2:08 am #31650
AnonymousSpectatorI can’t wait to hear the whole song!!
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2009.02.01 at 9:32 am #31651
ArthurSpectatorSmashing Pumpkins 2009 Hyundai Tour is brought to you by Hyundai Genesis and Kentucky Fried Chickens![/quote:2ja7fssg]
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2009.02.01 at 10:36 am #31652
DanniSpectatorSo when and were can you download FOL?
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2009.02.01 at 8:14 pm #31653
Im a Cult HeroSpectatorSo when and were can you download FOL?[/quote:2t0f888o]
[url:2t0f888o]http://download.hyundaigenesis.com/RegistrationPage.aspx?downloadfilename=billy.mp3[/url:2t0f888o]
I’m not really too fond of it TBH, the vocals feel a bit passionless, but the melody is catchy *shrugs* it’s ok, I’d like to hear it live before I really make a call on it though.
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2009.02.01 at 8:32 pm #31654
amnesiaSpectatorCant get the link to work, probo overload, but thanks Cult Hero.
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2009.02.01 at 8:53 pm #31655
AnonymousSpectatorI love it
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2009.02.01 at 8:56 pm #31656
amnesiaSpectatorI love it
Sounds great! Mayo I hope you get it to work soon [/quote:7e9li9yk]Yay got it, i FUCKING LOVE IT!!!!
I think its better then Glow, even though Glow kicked serious ass, this is just to good.Only minus its fucking short.
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2009.02.01 at 9:01 pm #31657
blueczarinaSpectatori won’t have it for at least 5 or 6 more hours damn my job
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2009.02.01 at 9:05 pm #31658
AnonymousSpectatori won’t have it for at least 5 or 6 more hours damn my job [/quote:2kkhjy4v]
how about this?
It’s a damn good song blue..damn good -
2009.02.01 at 9:06 pm #31659
amnesiaSpectatorThat sucks Blue, feel sorry for you honey.
I have it on replay on my winamp, 5 times so far and still counting.
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2009.02.01 at 9:26 pm #31660
blueczarinaSpectatorit does suck but i will have it on my ipod by the end of the day so i should focus on the bright side
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2009.02.01 at 9:38 pm #31661
DaysofthephoenixSpectatorI’m downloading it now but it won’t be done downloading for a while since I have dial-up.
Curse my wait.I hope it’s as good as you guys say it is.
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2009.02.01 at 10:19 pm #31662
some pumpkinsSpectatorwhat a catchy ass song! i love the transition from the fast to slow tempos
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2009.02.01 at 11:01 pm #31663
AnonymousSpectatorOh blue, I do feel for you
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2009.02.01 at 11:30 pm #31664
blueczarinaSpectatorOh blue, I do feel for you [/quote:3jce0qsv]
i know! i feel like i need some pity. everybody has heard it but me. i will feel better when i get home though.
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2009.02.01 at 11:48 pm #31665
manillascissorKeymasteri just saw it on tv! cool!
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2009.02.02 at 12:20 am #31666
some pumpkinsSpectatorOh blue, I do feel for you [/quote:1n93sb2j]
i know! i feel like i need some pity. everybody has heard it but me. i will feel better when i get home though. [/quote:1n93sb2j]
it’ll put you in a good mood after you hear it blue. i think im rooting or the cardinals
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2009.02.02 at 12:21 am #31667
blueczarinaSpectatori’m sure it will
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2009.02.02 at 1:55 am #31668
AnonymousSpectatorlooks like the Steelers might have this game!!
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2009.02.02 at 3:38 am #31669
blueczarinaSpectatorYAY! FINALLY I GET TO FEEL THE LOVE!!!!! i’m home and i’m listening to the new song.
i like it! its catchy
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2009.02.02 at 4:35 am #31670
MarcellaSpectatorVery catchy indeed! I do feel there’s something lacking in the vocals but I’m one exigent little brat.
AND HOORAY !!!
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2009.02.02 at 6:56 am #31671
SvenSpectatornow that’s the full song has been released-
referring back to my post questioning if this song was commisioned for, written and recorded for, whatever… the Hyunadia-ad…
i think we can now clearly and sufficiently conclude or at least assume THAT wasn’t the case—-Fear of Love (FOL) has nothing to do at the content level with the ad or whatever-
Fear of Love (FOL) however to me does sound like a latter day Zeitgeist song-
I just wouldn’t say – based on the sound and feel of FOH this is a pure Zeitgeist out-take-
However— FOH kinda lacks the bitter anger and spite and vitriol of Superchrist and GLOW—-Somehow I tend to kinda somehow, somewhere see FOH fit into the true but latter day Zeitgeist sessions-
So-
1- I’d say FOL was NOT recorded AFTER Zeitgeist and/or the Zeitgeist sessions-
2- I’d say FOL was NOT recorded like GLOW and Superchrist after the album, but somewhere with the album tracks-
3- I’d say FOL was, if NOT recorded with the album tracks, recorded in one flow with either GLOW or Superchrist…. it’s a stomper, a jam, a flow of sorts… it DOES reminder me somewhat of the 1996/1997-era and riffs like in the Pastichio Medley, parts of which were rehashed for GLOW, weren’t they?
4- I’d say— whenever, wherever (I’m trying to figure this out though and maybe I’m succesful and you’ll read something about it on the PMM-section of SP.com, working on it, just don’t COUNT on it…) FOL was recorded and all— what we see and hear now is, apart from GLOW (which DID get a digital official download release through standard download outlets), the fist instance of a TSP song being released totally devoid of any normal music industry way of distribution and thus this maybe a pointer towards the future—-So-
Apart from my mourned lack of a physical release format-
I totally mourn the lack of liner notes and credits-
So maybe we’ll learn something about the genises and recording of FOL soon-
Or maybe we as SPFreaks will have to content ourselves with the sounds—-
As we started out all along-
And bear the burden of the public at large’s non-interest in formats, figures, credits and whatever-
And thus bear the burder of SPFreaks’s lack of hard info on this song’s recording et al….Well-
Still—-
For me it all started with the sound-
For me FOL still brings me the NEW sound of TSP-
Which means TSP is still alive and kicking-
And thus moving now and into a new future-
Thus-
As much as I think FOL is NOT a totally awesome song (yet way more rocking than a lot of the \"new\" or residency songs!!!) it proces TSP is here and now and alive and moving and breathing and releasing and forging ahead in creativity – either if FOL proves to be genuine NEW song or if FOL proves to be a shelved Zeitgeist-track; in the form of release of FOL….All credit so still and above all to TSP for the release of FOL!!!
Wait and see what happens next-
Something tells me we just ain’t seen nothing yet in the ways of TSP getting their creativity and sound(s) out there-
Bringing it all back to where it all started with-
Bringing it all back to where TSP has always at the core and heart and soul’s been about—-THE SOUND!!!!
And nothing but it )))And-
Apart from our freaky collections-
Aren’t we above all in liove with the sound?
So-
There you have it- surprise surprise totally—-
A NEW FULL SONG!!!—-Enjoy?!!!!
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2009.02.02 at 10:37 am #31672
Doubtful-DellaSpectatorI had a really crappy night,
So getting to finally download this has made me at least feel better.
I like this song better than GLOW. I think it has more movement, more shifts in the sound. I agree that there are a few flat parts, but the overall feeling makes me want to get up and move. I’ve love to hear this one live! -
2009.02.02 at 1:12 pm #31673
Im a Cult HeroSpectatorIt took a lot of listens, but the song has grown on me, I like it a lot more now, it won’t be making my fave pumpkin songs list any time soon, but it will probably be stuck in my head for some time
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2009.02.02 at 1:47 pm #31674
AnonymousSpectatorHave to agree with Sven it’s definitely got that Pumpkins sound going on!!!
Love it still. I went to bed last night listening to it and keep replaying it, so I didn’t get to bed for about 45 minutes later… -
2009.02.02 at 3:56 pm #31675
some pumpkinsSpectatornice blog sven. only one thing. i think its \"feel\" our love
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2009.02.02 at 4:22 pm #31676
ShannenSpectatorI only listen to a tiny piece of it this morning. And FINALLY I get to listen to the whole piece from youtube.com. I find it a bit cheesy with the repitition – no offence!
– P E A C E –
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHyqMdBGoas[/youtube]
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2009.02.02 at 5:05 pm #31677
MarcellaSpectatorI agree in the repetition part. Don’t take me wrong, I LOVE to hear new stuff but repetition is that one thing that can make me dislike a song. Luckily this is not the case; I love SP too much to hate any of their songs, old and new.
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2009.02.04 at 7:50 pm #31678
TionSpectatori hear Feel Our Love, too…
does billy sing :\" i lick the polish crome\"..?
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2009.02.04 at 11:13 pm #31679
AnonymousSpectatorwell on the o-board the lyrics were posted and they say licked the polish chrome
I took these off TSP.net
I sent your love about
I know there’s death around
I catch the damage in the air
I’ve got the skull and bones
I lick the polished chrome
There’s magic everywhereCan I please just talk to you
Feelings deep and draining blue
A useless line (mind)
Come on and feel our loveFeel our love
If love ain’t too much
Follow the white hot sun
What I’ve sown I’ve split in half
Now it’s always however you impart
Love is always on fireA single cross to bear
The TV crews are there
Where we want with dirty knives
The night begins a waste
It’s all a bit too fake
Someone kill the lightsFamine’s something I can do
Towers splits I haven’t used
If I want I can’t refuse
It’s useless nowCome on and feel our love
I know there’s death above
Come on and feel our loveFeel our love
If love ain’t enough
Follow the white hot sun
Turn back to the one
What I’ve sown I’ve split in half
So now it’s always however you impart
Love is always on fireFeel our love
Come on and feel our love
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2009.02.07 at 12:08 pm #31680
AnonymousSpectatorHere’s the art I did for F.O.L.
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2009.02.07 at 8:12 pm #31681
MarcellaSpectator^ SO cool.
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2009.02.07 at 8:37 pm #31682
some pumpkinsSpectatorvery cool reggae! you’re the featured image on sp.com
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2009.02.07 at 8:43 pm #31683
amnesiaSpectatorThat art is very cool.Well done.
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2009.02.08 at 5:12 am #31684
AnonymousSpectatorHere is one more I am going to post over there too
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2009.02.08 at 9:39 am #31685
amnesiaSpectatorThis one is cool as well, but i like the first one a lil better.
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2009.02.08 at 1:25 pm #31686
blueczarinaSpectatori like the first one a little better too, but very cool.
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2009.02.08 at 1:30 pm #31687
AnonymousSpectatorI like it, but yeah I’m more fond of my other one. I was playing with their heart logo on this one
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2009.02.08 at 1:34 pm #31688
blueczarinaSpectatoroh yeah, i just thought those were swirls. i see it now.
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2009.02.08 at 10:21 pm #31689
PipokaSpectatorvery cool raggae
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2009.02.10 at 2:14 pm #31690
AnonymousSpectatorNow if he will make a single for the song..and use my art for it…wishful thinking
but it would be so cool and such an honor!
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