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ewww, hip hop
and i guess for me by spirituality and the pumpkins i don’t know what i mean- nothing religious really. i guess its just that to me pumpkin music can be cathartic. when you sit there listening to an album or whatever there is just something in the sound and in the emotion he puts into his music that sort of takes you to a different place. it has a profound effect on my mood. some of the music is uplifting or energizing, gives you a boost, and some of it feeds your sadness. spirituality might not be the right word. maybe its just that inexplicable pumpkiness, but its just sort of like there is this different sort of energy there. i can’t really explain, but you can kind of go into a pumpkin trance when you listen to the music and just let it take you along. it does sort of bring you to a different state. its not a god thing. its not anything like that. its just that their music is atmospheric and deep and emotional and encapsulates this energy this vibe that draws me in and can kind of put me into an altered state if only for an album.
its not religious. its just meditative, restorative, and trance like. i don’t know if i make sense. i don’t really know how to put it.
plus i guess to me when Corgan is performing he seems to kind of trip on his own songs. of course he had some \"help\" with that over the years, but he kind of lets himself be taken away. he taps into a different place within himself and allows the music and emotion wash over him. and to me some parts in his songs seem kind of mantra like. its like these quiet, still moments in which there is just this focus on this one idea or feeling. Siva would be a song i would say has this. it kind of alternates between these bursts of energy and these bursts of contemplative quiet. Soma does this too and so do a lot of others. Plus Siva’s lyrics are kind of mantra like.
I don’t live – I inhale
I don’t give – I unveil
Don’t want to live in your misery
I don’t live – I inhaleIts just like that with a lot of pumpkin songs. You have the quiet moment that are still and contemplative, but yet sort of focused or charged somehow with this subtle vibe that draws you in. Then there is the louder stuff that overwhelms you with this burst of emotion and energy that pulls you along and can even be restorative/ energizing.
There is just this infusion of something extra, something that can’t quantified or explained exactly. It might not be \"spirituality\" in the Western sense. I guess when i think about it all it might be more spirituality in the Eastern sense as far as the sort of vibe i get.
i don’t know. i confuse myself too.
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Once in a While [6]To be honest, I fear the box will be a little bit too small for the 14 extra shows. But I might be wrong. I hope it will fit perfectly.[/quote:3nc4dwc5]
Judge yourself, but I know my opinion alright. Here are 14 shows (grey cds) & 24 shows (colored cds) together in "the box".
[/quote:3nc4dwc5]damn that’s a big ass box
that could be. plus Today is kind of just the mark of some casual fans who just wants relive Viuephoria anymore.
maybe those bastards killed the song for him.
i did! it was very cool.
but if you add a per minute charge i might have to not pay you because today alone that could cost me $750.
touchy subject. i’ll leave religion and god out of this, but i can say with 100% certainty that i definately have a spitirual connection with pumpkins music.[/quote:2g4147v4]
i agree ^^
i’m not comfortable with the god connection, but there is spiritual connection i have with the SP.
yeah, sadly he could probably stand to lose a few people.
and as for the SP i think listening to his music is kind of spiritual in some respects. not neccesarily Christian, but it just has a different vibe, a different energy that really resonates. it sort of takes you to a different place. plus he has really deep lyrics.
and i respect the fact that he puts his feelings out there too. he doesn’t shove them down anybody’s throat he is just honest about himslef. its like \"here i’m. take it or leave it.\"
I love that this thread popped in your head while driving in the rain..lol[/quote:vxro5ai0]
it means he is an SPfreak
i don’t know. it could potentially, but i don’t know. religion is a touchy subject for me too, but at least i think his faith is more of an individual thing to him then it is some organized faith he is trying to push off on others. i respect Corgan and i think of his music as some kind of transcendant sort of thing anyway. i always felt that there was something else there besides a kick ass song.
