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Annoying issue with page 103/104 of the original thread not working well. As Cool As Ice Cream suggests, we start all over/continue with a new thread and close the other one.
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Holy #?*#, I just won this for $19.00…..I am very pleased with my-self
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I’ve been collecting record awards for the past 10 years. Ive had the Mellon Collie for almost that long and I got the Machina one within the past two years. In the past month I was able to score two Siamese Dream awards and a Pisces award. The collection is shaping up nicely.
Someone asked on the SPFreaks facebook page about the signature on the Pisces award. It is presented to Kerry Brown and signed by D’arcy.
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I’ve been collecting record awards for the past 10 years. Ive had the Mellon Collie for almost that long and I got the Machina one within the past two years. In the past month I was able to score two Siamese Dream awards and a Pisces award. The collection is shaping up nicely.
Someone asked on the SPFreaks facebook page about the signature on the Pisces award. It is presented to Kerry Brown and signed by D’arcy.[/quote:32eol0ki]
Awesome. Really nice pic!Anything on the wantlist still, kylie? The Aeroplane sales award maybe?
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well done and I thought I had been busy lately
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Hehe, thanks! I’m catching up lately… Haven’t been active for a while, but I’m back. And it is a summery of the things I obtained in the last few weeks/1 month actually. Which reminds me that I should add The Celestials Denmark promo & Pisces Iscariot reissue promo Japan to it also, to make it complete… -
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Anything on the wantlist still, kylie? The Aeroplane sales award maybe?[/quote:2bvsjr5r]
Absolutely! The Aeroplane Flies High, Gish (I know where one is but I’m not spending the $2000 asking price), Adore and Zeitgeist are all on my list. I’m always keeping an eye out so if you or anyone else out there is selling, please let me know and we can talk.
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Did you notice the red star above the HUT logo? Never seen that before. That’s what I call freaky, that I notice such things immediately.[/quote:1mlh2mw6]
yes, that also jumped out to me. you’re not alone in your freakiness.today this lovely item arrived: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2520
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Just in:
http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3109
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=862
[/quote:2ei530lf]you’re on a collecting tear! nice items too.
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Just in:
http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3109
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=862
[/quote:3awsy3jh]you’re on a collecting tear! nice items too.
[/quote:3awsy3jh]I am, have got some really good items recently at decent prices….still after the celestials promo at an ok price
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i recently got that . nothing too special.
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it’s similar to this release:
http://spfreaks.com/default.aspx?page=C … &item=2523but is manufactured 20 days earlier and says "PRE-MASTER CD" on it. but the track lengths are identical, so i imagine the songs are as well.[/quote:2u0dmwd6]
the one that was already up on spfreaks.com says "eq’d for cd". so that one has been mastered for cd. your new copy should contain the pre-mastered tracks. which is very interesting, in my opinion. cool find. -
it’s similar to this release:
http://spfreaks.com/default.aspx?page=C … &item=2523but is manufactured 20 days earlier and says "PRE-MASTER CD" on it. but the track lengths are identical, so i imagine the songs are as well.[/quote:20yut6rp]
the one that was already up on spfreaks.com says "eq’d for cd". so that one has been mastered for cd. your new copy should contain the pre-mastered tracks. which is very interesting, in my opinion. cool find.[/quote:20yut6rp]thank you sir. i had a listen. sounds exactly the same. perhaps the differences are outside of human detection?
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thank you sir. i had a listen. sounds exactly the same. perhaps the differences are outside of human detection?[/quote:2v42ntcb]
dunno. there must be a difference, i think. maybe just a tad louder or something?on the other hand, my ears are so bad that i’m certain that i wouldn’t hear a difference myself, even if it was obvious.
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actually, i might be wrong. your cd also says \"eq’d for cd\".
your cd says \"pre-master cd\", \"security services – listening only\", and \"cd manufacturing and production use – handle with care\".
the other one says \"cd reference\", and \"promo use only – not for resale – not for manufacturing\".clearly the two cds have different purposes. one is meant for the manufacturing process, the other one is meant to be handed out as a promo.
is the content different? i think so. but i’m not sure.
is the \"pre-master\" actually a pre-master? or would \"not-finished master\" be more appropriate?EDIT: your cd also says \"digital mastering by keith blake at …\"
and underneath it says \"GE KB …\": i think the KB refers to keith blake. and my guess would be that this version has already been mastered by KB.
your cd also says \"from various sources\". the other cd says \"from 1630 source\". so that one has been copied from another cd.
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actually, i might be wrong. your cd also says "eq’d for cd".
your cd says "pre-master cd", "security services – listening only", and "cd manufacturing and production use – handle with care".
the other one says "cd reference", and "promo use only – not for resale – not for manufacturing".clearly the two cds have different purposes. one is meant for the manufacturing process, the other one is meant to be handed out as a promo.
is the content different? i think so. but i’m not sure.
is the "pre-master" actually a pre-master? or would "not-finished master" be more appropriate?EDIT: your cd also says "digital mastering by keith blake at …"
and underneath it says "GE KB …": i think the KB refers to keith blake. and my guess would be that this version has already been mastered by KB.
your cd also says "from various sources". the other cd says "from 1630 source". so that one has been copied from another cd.
either way, your cd is way rarer than the promotional cd. yours might be unique.[/quote:hudlif4w]like you say, the mastering probably came from different sources. something tells me WB probably didn’t master these tracks, rather virgin, and they just sent them over to WB for inclusion on the soundtrack. i checked everything, and, to my ears, the soundtrack sounds verbatim as all known commercial versions. perhaps someone at WB DID tweak these songs a tiny bit, i don’t know exactly how it all works. when i saw KB, i instantly thought kerry brown, haha.
i guess my point/thought is this: all artists on this soundtrack appear courtesy of other record labels. unless, of course, they already appear on WB. to me, this suggests the respective record companies sent over mastered versions of what they wanted to contribute. but, someone needs to do a final mastering of the WB product (enter KB and GE). they don’t want to create a shitty soundtrack with errors. perhaps it was just a quick QC and nothing was changed. but if they found a major flaw, they could have figured it out and requested another "master" be sent over from whoever records before adding it to a soundtrack that they wanted to sound at its absolute best.
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what i think happened is this:
all bands deliver their respective materials. there are mixed and EQ-d and my guess is also pre-mastered.
these are then compiled and need a compilation mastering to make sure the overall levels are in check.a pre-master for the compilation is most likely a cd featuring all tracks in running order and with the final mastering, which is then used to manufacture the final masters for production from. this would be in line with the fact that it has been mastered by KB. therefore i’d conclude it was not like a pre-FM, before KB did the (digital) mastering, but that the pre-master denotes the fact that this cd/this master-mix was used to create the production master, but was not itself the production-master.
a reference cd is normally made from the production-master to check before the production starts in full swing. if that one is approved, it can of course (as there will be no changes after that point) be used as a promotional/reference/in-house cd as it is bound to be identical to the finished product which will hit the stores. of course there will be promotional releases of the commercial product in due time (and especially for review and (radio)promotion), but when you want to bridge the period between the start of manufacturing the cds and the moment the commercial product press run items are ready, one can use the reference cd.
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This also makes more sense: weren’t the two bonus tracks supposed to be included on the UK release only? (Even though it’s sold in more places than just the UK, apparently. In what kind of shop was this bought in the Netherlands, by the way?)
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This also makes more sense: weren’t the two bonus tracks supposed to be included on the UK release only? (Even though it’s sold in more places than just the UK, apparently. In what kind of shop was this bought in the Netherlands, by the way?)
[/quote:1wznyd7i]i contacted sound performance. i was unsure if it was EU or UK, but it’s confirmed UK now
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so has anyone seen a cd version of look to the sky without any bonus tracks?
or are the bonus tracks "cd only" bonus tracks, instead of "uk only"?[/quote:3bk7rj7l]maybe the extra tracks are exclusive to the "look to the sky" release[/quote:3bk7rj7l]
ahahaha.well, the bonus tracks aren’t included on the vinyl record. so in that way they could be considered "cd only" (if they appear on every cd copy).
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I put in a bid of $73 which I would have been more than happy to pay,although I’ve seen it go for much much more.
It was sold for $74.
I just can’t afford to go in big just now for financial reasons,so if I win with one of my bids,it generally means I’ve put in a reasonable bid but would be lucky to win.I wasnt expecting to win,but it would have been nice.
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Yeah, I know what you mean… Happened to me a while back too, with a Danish promo for Celestials. Since the US promo for that song went for $100+, I was expecting this rare thing to go for a lot too. Still I’m not a millionaire, so I bid $99. Someone sniped it from my ass last minute, and it went for $100. Bummer…
My revenge was sweet though. A few weeks later I found the same promo again, and I won for $50 something.
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How do you attach a picture to your post?[/quote:1hpmkqik]
A lot of times I use http://www.tinypic.com for my pics. After uploading a pic there, it will give you a section called "IMG Code for Forums & Message Boards" and the link presented in the box, you can copy and paste inside your forum reply here. Works quite nicely, if you ask me.However, read this first, about the max width of pics: http://forum.spfreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=22
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Thirty-Three Canadian promo[/quote:1zt5mh6u]
i believe i saw this on ebay.
isn’t this just a US promo though, with a small sticker mentioning that it was imported, by emi canada, or whoever?i remember that the ebay description said "made in canada" and "virgin records canada", but when you looked at the pictures, it was clear that this wasn’t the case.
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You’re right Bram, it is the one from eBay. And the description did not really suit the situation indeed, but I knew that. It is the same type of promo as this one.
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You’re right Bram, it is the one from eBay. And the description did not really suit the situation indeed, but I knew that. It is the same type of promo as this one.
http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=244[/quote:2n6j1mk3]
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I first heard Siamese Dream on cassette (at a friends house, 19 years ago) and today I found a copy in a second hand store!
can’t figure out which one it is on the collection though. Made in Holland. UK HUTMC11
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Probably an unknown release to SPfreaks. Can we have scans of it someday soon? Thanks!It travelled quite far, from Holland to your place.
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Just in for $25.00
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CD + LP box set http://www.bloggzilla.blogg.se
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CD + LP box set http://www.bloggzilla.blogg.se[/quote:1pfphlxv]
awesome pics!
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Just bought a Zeitgeist flag. It says 07.07.07 on the pole, so I guess it’s from the Live Earth show?[/quote:2v53z3oi]
no. that’s just a promotional flag for the album. it was released way before. i remember seeing one on the day of the paris 2007 show, which was in may.
originally, the release date was supposed to be 7-7-7. i guess for symbolic reasons. but then, when the release date came closer, it changed to a couple of days later. i guess for practical reasons.i think i also have that little flag somewhere.
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check it out here as well: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1566
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picked up a US MCIS (not remastered) 2CD in fatbox from bestbuy today because there was a sticker that stated the discs were pressed in MX.
and they were right. no idea when this actually came out, but i think pretty recently. probably around late 2011 or sometime in 2012, when the gish/sd reissues were pressed in MX.
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picked up a US MCIS (not remastered) 2CD in fatbox from bestbuy today because there was a sticker that stated the discs were pressed in MX.
and they were right. no idea when this actually came out, but i think pretty recently. probably around late 2011 or sometime in 2012, when the gish/sd reissues were pressed in MX.
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What is a fatbox?
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Have to get myself an avatar…[/quote:2d4bom32]
With their new album – Black Waltz – Avatar is once again standing on the front line, ready to fight for everything insane. By having the courage to let the music take them wherever it needs to go they’ve reached lands and soundscapes never seen or heard of before. They play the soundtrack to the end of world and give you the greatest show of the apocalypse.
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i believe about one month ago, another copy of the daphne descends promo went for 38 euro. that’s about the same price.
edit: here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/221162720028
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Didnt see that one.
The cover of mine isnt too bad, it has a noticable crease on the bottom right corner and small one near the middle, but hey, it doesnt bother me, not everything i own has to be mint[/quote:32oei9dq]
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Didnt see that one.
The cover of mine isnt too bad, it has a noticable crease on the bottom right corner and small one near the middle, but hey, it doesnt bother me, not everything i own has to be mint[/quote:12nruwev]
Yeah exactly. I have a far-from-mint copy of Siva Australia, and I’m not looking for a replacement.[/quote:12nruwev]
I would love a copy of Siva if one ever came about, they must be extremely scarce considering it was the first single and only released in Australia -
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I don’t – I have a few LPs in craft store frames, and a framed MCIS poster, but I am getting some quotes on dual 7" frame for Tristessa so both the sleeve and record are visible. If you’d like, I can post the finished product on here when it’s complete.
The wildest thing I’ve seen framed is Melissa’s smashed bass from the Everlasting Gaze video. Amazing!
Tristessa 7" pink marbled vinyl just arrived from Discogs on Saturday. And now to purchase a frame![/quote:12qjc7sn]
do you frame everything? i wish i could afford that.[/quote:12qjc7sn]
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Howdy, firecrasher!
Just bragging a little about my australasian shopping spree.
Thirty-Three Australia (6 tracks, not on SPfreaks yet)
3 Malaysian promo compilations (2 not on SPfreaks yet)
Oceania Japan promo
Pisces Iscariot Japan reissue promo (not on SPfreaks yet)
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So did anyone on here win the gold gish cd, cr03 or judas o masterdisk that sold last night? I was watching them but they went for way too much for me[/quote:144hpzih]
i lost on the CR03 and didn’t bid on other items. can’t believe how much the gish gold went for.[/quote:144hpzih]
I bid on all 3. Stopped bidding on gold gish when it got to £150, cant believe it went for £265! I was the highest bidder on judas o masterdisk for a while but i was praying for someone else to bid because it was too much
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I was trying the Judas 0 Masterdisk for a while (and was highest bidder for a while), but after 70 pound I stopped. It went for 100 something I noticed. I found that too much.
Last year I bought the Gish Gold disc for around 20 dollar (less than 5% of the latest auction). I was lucky because the header of the auction description didn’t say anything about gold disc. I checked the pics, however, and it turned out it was the gold disc. Again, I was very lucky.
Update on my Asian section:
Greatest Hits Thailand promo for 14 Euro including shipment. With these prices collecting is fun.
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i checked that gold gish promo auction, and it was listed as \"gold cd\", but not as a \"promo\". on top of that, it was only listed on the american ebay. and if i’m not mistaken, the starting bid was $9, but it also had a buy-it-now for $20. so you were probably the first person to check out that auction and do the logical thing.
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i checked that gold gish promo auction, and it was listed as "gold cd", but not as a "promo". on top of that, it was only listed on the american ebay. and if i’m not mistaken, the starting bid was $9, but it also had a buy-it-now for $20. so you were probably the first person to check out that auction and do the logical thing.[/quote:2uia7z4h]
very logical
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i checked that gold gish promo auction, and it was listed as "gold cd", but not as a "promo". on top of that, it was only listed on the american ebay. and if i’m not mistaken, the starting bid was $9, but it also had a buy-it-now for $20. so you were probably the first person to check out that auction and do the logical thing.[/quote:w9pvga2g]
Right. I got a shock seeing it, and being able to grab it, let me tell you. It was one of my top 5 most wanted CDs. -
Hi everyone. I’m thrilled to find this community! I’ve been telling people about the alternate TAFH box (and accompanying ad with the box – I think it was Best Buy?) for years, but no one has ever believed me. When I stumbled across it on here, it made my day.
My MADM "Taste You" purple vinyl 7" arrived from England a few minutes ago just before I packed up my scanner, so I sent that over to you all as well.
hi, firecrasher. i remember you from blamo. and didn’t i meet you in london once?[/quote:2p2qx6ab] November 2009 on Brick Lane? If so, yes! I believe there is a photo on Facebook. I am the shortest.
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hi, firecrasher. i remember you from blamo. and didn’t i meet you in london once?[/quote:3fbc7ocf] November 2009 on Brick Lane? If so, yes! I believe there is a photo on Facebook. I am the shortest.
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yes, we had a curry on brick lane.
i’m not on facebook though.what exactly is the alternate tafh box and ad (from best buy?) you’re talking about?
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hi, firecrasher. i remember you from blamo. and didn’t i meet you in london once?[/quote:3qvk7qvy] November 2009 on Brick Lane? If so, yes! I believe there is a photo on Facebook. I am the shortest.
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yes, we had a curry on brick lane.
i’m not on facebook though.what exactly is the alternate tafh box and ad (from best buy?) you’re talking about?[/quote:3qvk7qvy]
The alternate box is (what I now know is) the prototype box. I swear that I saw it in an ad for TAFH when it first came out in ’96; I remember going to Best Buy to buy it and being disappointed that the box wasn’t the one with the little SP symbols on it. I’m not sure if I ever posted on Blamo about it. I was shocked to see that box on here… it confirmed that I haven’t been crazy for the past 15 years and it really does exist! Next time I get in the attic I will check and see if I saved a copy of the ad with the rest of my SP clippings.
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got this delabel promo tape:
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appears to contain what’s on the tin: a press conference, given on 20 october 1993. i guess it happened in hollywood, from one of billy’s answers.
journalists from all over the world are present and ask questions (including journalists from finland, australia and brazil, for example).
billy does most of the talking. james says a little something here and there. not sure (yet) if d’arcy or jimmy are there. (still listening.)i did some quick googling, but couldn’t find any references to this press conference.
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Here’s Tristessa in the frame – it came as a kit (!) and the pre-cut mat is a little bit smaller than the record and sleeve… so I’m going to take it to a craft store to get the mat cut, or put one of my Auf Der Maur records in this frame and get frame for Tristessa from a different (and more expensive) manufacturer with an assembled frame and sleeve for the record.
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Cool! And good to see some MadM love.
Today I received a few posters I ordered at the official SP Ebay store. I was surprised to learn that they send me four instead of the three posters I paid for (I got a damaged Arising poster for free). Also it didn’t contain the Machina poster from Munich I picked, but one from Stockholm. Anyway, apart from the sky-high customs duties I had to pay, I’m quite happy with them.
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Hey folks!
I’m hoping someone in the US can help me out.
I was going to buy this Argentinian Oceania at a great price.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120978649295? … 1423.l2649
Sadly they don’t ship to the UK for import tax reasons.Would someone be willing to help me out.
You will be rewarded handsomely with cash/goods etc.
Your help would be greatly appreciated!
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[/quote:lpz8mjn2]absolutely LOVE how the background images show that ‘moment’ in the video, really well done![/quote:lpz8mjn2]
After I have overcome my jealousy, I fully agree. This frame really does justice to the guitar. A collectors’ piece to be really proud of. Well done, Geo, you’ve got taste. -
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Hey folks!
I’m hoping someone in the US can help me out.
I was going to buy this Argentinian Oceania at a great price.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120978649295? … 1423.l2649
Sadly they don’t ship to the UK for import tax reasons.Would someone be willing to help me out.
You will be rewarded handsomely with cash/goods etc.
Your help would be greatly appreciated![/quote:1osgjwhx]
i can help you out. PM me if you’re interested!
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absolutely LOVE how the background images show that ‘moment’ in the video, really well done![/quote:1e88sg8u]
After I have overcome my jealousy, I fully agree. This frame really does justice to the guitar. A collectors’ piece to be really proud of. Well done, Geo, you’ve got taste.[/quote:1e88sg8u]Agreed… that is absolutely stunning. Do you also have Melissa’s bass?
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The most beautiful 5 dollar item I ever won on eBay.
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I try to collect all the promo shots like this and other old photos from back in the day. I got this photo from ebay as well about six months ago. Before that I hadn’t seen it.[/quote:1hp1jw7u]
Hi kylie, is yours exactly the same, I mean with all the Caroline text around the pic? This pic is probably a generic promo pic from that era, and not only related to the gig this seller is mentioning. -
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It went for £78 in the end. Just above my max bid. If i had more money at the moment i would have go a bit higher. Im not too worried, ive seen a few for sale in the past few months so ill get my chance hopefully[/quote:1xwm3jcg]
i honestly would try to shoot a lot lower for that single. perhaps 50-75 US dollars. certainly not more than $75.
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I bought this Dutch book with (translated) transcripts of radio interviews from 1996-2006. The last one in the book is with Billy in which he talks, among other things, about the death of his mother. I would post a link to a mp3, but I can’t seem to find it right now. Have it on my harddrive somewhere though.
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I bought this Dutch book with (translated) transcripts of radio interviews from 1996-2006. The last one in the book is with Billy in which he talks, among other things, about the death of his mother. I would post a link to a mp3, but I can’t seem to find it right now. Have it on my harddrive somewhere though.
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i think i know what interview you’re talking about. "naar eer en geweten" rings a bell.
if i’m correct, then i have it in two forms: the interview as it was broadcast, and the full, unedited interview.
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I bought this Dutch book with (translated) transcripts of radio interviews from 1996-2006. The last one in the book is with Billy in which he talks, among other things, about the death of his mother. I would post a link to a mp3, but I can’t seem to find it right now. Have it on my harddrive somewhere though.
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i think i know what interview you’re talking about. "naar eer en geweten" rings a bell.
if i’m correct, then i have it in two forms: the interview as it was broadcast, and the full, unedited interview.
is this the interview where billy has to pick cards with questions?[/quote:1nv0uwgf]yes it is the one with the card game/system
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I bought this Dutch book with (translated) transcripts of radio interviews from 1996-2006. The last one in the book is with Billy in which he talks, among other things, about the death of his mother. I would post a link to a mp3, but I can’t seem to find it right now. Have it on my harddrive somewhere though.[/quote:h3da7lfu]
i think i know what interview you’re talking about. "naar eer en geweten" rings a bell.
if i’m correct, then i have it in two forms: the interview as it was broadcast, and the full, unedited interview.
is this the interview where billy has to pick cards with questions?[/quote:h3da7lfu]Yes, it’s the one with the cards. I didn’t know there where two versions of the interview. I believe I have one that is about 20 minutes.
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here it is!
splra entry: http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Bc2003-06-03
so this happened on the same day as the zwan show in amsterdam. (in my memory this was more of a the future embrace era interview. weird.)the two files off a dutch website back in the day (maybe they’re still up; dunno):
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I didn’t know there where two versions of the interview. I believe I have one that is about 20 minutes.[/quote:2bymbda2]
that must be the full interview.i found this link: http://3voor12.vpro.nl/nieuws/2003/dece … pkins.html (it’s all in dutch though.)
stream seems to be gone. well, i couldn’t find it.edit: geo and derek, re: that podcast you were on, in this interview, billy mentions collecting 60s comic books and vinyl records.
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i won a french machina cd-r promo yesterday. nobody else bid on it, so it was only £25.[/quote:1mjahym6]
well, this is a nice surprise: it contains the alternate mixes for "the sacred and profane" and "age of innocence". i don’t think i had these on any cd before.maybe this information could be added to the spfreaks collection entry: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … LS&item=35
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Even though it has been revealed to be a fake and a bootleg, I’ve wanted one of the Siamese wooden boxes for over a decade. I had an opportunity to score one and I thought it about time. So a few days ago, I did.
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If it was the one from eBay that went for almost $75 (I think it was a #300 range?), then you made a perfect deal! I paid quite a few bucks more for my #19, but it came with the original box also.Just curious kylie, does it have the red Made in Holland CD or the silver US CD? See also information and pics here: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=1697
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i won a french machina cd-r promo yesterday. nobody else bid on it, so it was only £25.[/quote:1fahj8mh]
well, this is a nice surprise: it contains the alternate mixes for "the sacred and profane" and "age of innocence". i don’t think i had these on any cd before.maybe this information could be added to the spfreaks collection entry: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … LS&item=35
(like here, for example: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3778)[/quote:1fahj8mh]
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I really want a Machina promo with those alternate mixes on. I you coms across one can you give me a heads up? It would be much appreciated[/quote:aw0zro7s]
I would love to help you with this, really! But they are super duper rare… In 13 years after they were made I only saw 2 copies of UK promos with these alt. mixes pass along. I happen to have bought them both. There are however at least 1 or 2 other copies out there (because someone has leaked these alt. mixes), but I don’t know who has them.Now it seems that the French Machina promo also contains these alt. mixes, but that promo happens to be super rare too. I have only seen 2 copies so far (maybe there is a 3rd copy out there also, I vaguely remember), and 1 is owned by me, the other by Cool. So don’t expect miracles about this one, my friend…
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Is it exactly the same French promo, the one that you just bought on eBay, and that we have on SPfreaks already?[/quote:1mjupqvc]
yes, it looks exactly the same.
if you give your copy a listen, you should be able to confirm this release indeed contains the alternate mixes.what other cd-rs with the alternate mixes do you own? and are there any other releases known with the alternate mixes?
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what other cd-rs with the alternate mixes do you own? and are there any other releases known with the alternate mixes?[/quote:llkjysc4]
I own these 2:http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=184
http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3778 (my mistake, this one is from the US)
And so far these 2 are the only 2 versions of the Machina promo with the alt. mixes that we know of (until your discovery of the French promo containing these alt mixes, that is). But none of them got leaked, so there is at least 1 other copy. I’ll give the French promo a listen too, indeed.
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i won a french machina cd-r promo yesterday. nobody else bid on it, so it was only £25.[/quote:714cj018]
well, this is a nice surprise: it contains the alternate mixes for "the sacred and profane" and "age of innocence". i don’t think i had these on any cd before.maybe this information could be added to the spfreaks collection entry: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … LS&item=35
(like here, for example: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3778)[/quote:714cj018]does the FR regular full album promo also contain these alt mixes? if not, i would begin to question the purpose of these FR CD-Rs. i mean, why generate a CD-R with mixes different to the mixes that end up on your final promo release?
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also, can someone explain how these are alt mixes? what’s alternate about them? if it’s simply track duration, that’s not an alternate mix, but i’m sure you guys already know this.
thing is, i have quite a few (US) machina promos, but never knew what to listen for and almost all of them vary in track length from promo to promo.
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does the FR regular full album promo also contain these alt mixes? if not, i would begin to question the purpose of these FR CD-Rs. i mean, why generate a CD-R with mixes different to the mixes that end up on your final promo release?[/quote:363mrlvo]
no, i checked the regular album promo, and it doesn’t contain the alternate mixes.we should indeed review our story behind the cd-rs. they’re not "test pressings" or "masters" for the regular cds. at least not in this case.
clearly the cd-r was made way before the other promotional cd. maybe they needed a handful of promotional cd-rs before they were able to press the normal promo cd, and even before they were able to acquire the finished master? (was it even finished at that time?)
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also, can someone explain how these are alt mixes? what’s alternate about them? if it’s simply track duration, that’s not an alternate mix, but i’m sure you guys already know this.
thing is, i have quite a few (US) machina promos, but never knew what to listen for and almost all of them vary in track length from promo to promo.[/quote:1memh8r8]
i’ll try to explain:
the sacred and profane: extra drum loops at the beginning. (normally these only appear at the end of the track.)
age of innocence: this extra noise in the background, during all of the song, if i’m not mistaken.i should investigate this further, but i’m not even sure if all "alternate promo mixes" are the same. it hasn’t been confirmed that there isn’t any variation between the different sources.
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I really want a Machina promo with those alternate mixes on. I you coms across one can you give me a heads up? It would be much appreciated[/quote:355r0yqw]
I would love to help you with this, really! But they are super duper rare… In 13 years after they were made I only saw 2 copies of UK promos with these alt. mixes pass along. I happen to have bought them both. There are however at least 1 or 2 other copies out there (because someone has leaked these alt. mixes), but I don’t know who has them.Now it seems that the French Machina promo also contains these alt. mixes, but that promo happens to be super rare too. I have only seen 2 copies so far (maybe there is a 3rd copy out there also, I vaguely remember), and 1 is owned by me, the other by Cool. So don’t expect miracles about this one, my friend…
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the sacred and profane: http://www.mediafire.com/?98it3ocyzzl
age of innocence: http://www.mediafire.com/?6ijjxzjtyej
(both off arthur’s \"not finished master 1999-11-29\".)if i find some time, i’ll look into this myself tonight.
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I understand but any help would be nice! The annoying thing is i could have bought that UK promo with alternate mixes that was only pit on sp freaks a few months back but i didnt know what it was at the time ffs[/quote:3o9kwjzf]
at that time, nobody knew that this cd had the alternate mixes. first you need to get the cd, then you need to listen.so far, only a couple of cd-rs have the alternate mixes. most of them don’t.
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the sacred and profane: http://www.mediafire.com/?98it3ocyzzl
age of innocence: http://www.mediafire.com/?6ijjxzjtyej
(both off arthur’s "not finished master 1999-11-29".)if i find some time, i’ll look into this myself tonight.[/quote:3bvy2up7]
very helpful, thanks!
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wow, i think i hear both now.
sacred and profane a simple four bar drum loop intro not present on final version and age of innocence has this fuzz that fades out right before the bridge around 2:30 or so. never noticed before.
now i’ll have a listen to 6 promos to see if they have it as well.
thanks bram!
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after some quick research, there are two more confirmed pressings that have the alternate mixes:
http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=1088
http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=2602
the first is very straightforward.
the second one, however, as it is listed on spfreaks, looks to be german, and not US. i could be wrong, but i’ve only seen the green virgin logo on two other CDs before and they are both german and also machina-era.
my copy is just a blank cd-r, but it has the same insert and it is also sitting at an angle like the one on the site. i believe my copy to be a US pressing.
it’s really no surprise these tracks leaked a long time ago!
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ok, i checked and listened and stuff.
the ones that are now listed as having the alternate mixes indeed have the alternate mixes: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLTRACK&track=10461
(i can’t verify this one, but manilla just did: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=1088)i couldn’t find any other cd with the alternate mixes, except one: that mysterious \"premaster\" cd-r. i believe this is the version that first leaked. no idea where it came from. the fact that bits are missing from some (or all?) the tracks makes it even weirder, in my opinion.
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anyway, i compared all alternate mixes over those different releases, including that \"premaster cd-r\", and they all sound the same.manilla, you’re right: the alternate mix for the sacred and profane has that drum loop intro. another difference is that a very similar drum loop is in the outro of the officially released song, but it’s not there in the alternate (early) mix.
and another easy way to hear the difference between the two age of innocence mixes is to listen to the very end.now the weirdest thing is that i found these two flac files saved under \"machina promo tracks\". i must have downloaded them online somewhere a long time ago (from some messageboard? the hub? – they may not always have been flac files; i may have converted them from .wav or .shn), but they weren’t part of a whole album download. it was just those two alternate mixes. now age of innocence is all normal, and has the same length as that \"premaster\" cd-r, so it might come from there. but the sacred and profane both has the drum loop intro and the drum loop outro! none of the releases i checked have this.
so there has to be another source out there, that has both. a cd-r we haven’t found yet? an other source? or would it be possible that someone constructed this track, by combining the alternate mix with the officially released version? no idea.that is all for now.
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i should also add that on all releases, with exception of that \"premaster\" cd-r, the track lengths are the same. so i think it is very likely that all releases (except that \"premaster\" cd-r) share the same source.
i assume the EU versions of this cd-r were copied from a copy of a US version cd-r. and maybe the french one got copied from a UK one later on. possibly. (i don’t really know if delabel’s mainly connected to london, or directly to america.) but in the end they all come from the same \"original source\", which must be what the band handed to the record company at the end of 1999.
i guess i should also upload that freak version of \"the sacred and profane\" that has both the drum loop intro and outro. it would be interesting to find out where that track came from.
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i guess i should also upload that freak version of "the sacred and profane" that has both the drum loop intro and outro. it would be interesting to find out where that track came from.[/quote:2g5j0h7v]
here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?s7uiqa61met15l9i named it "alternate mix 2". thing’s gotta have a name.
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i guess i should also upload that freak version of "the sacred and profane" that has both the drum loop intro and outro. it would be interesting to find out where that track came from.[/quote:15d0donn]
here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?s7uiqa61met15l9i named it "alternate mix 2". thing’s gotta have a name.[/quote:15d0donn]
good name.
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:::: MACHINA II UK IN HOUSE VIRGIN 4 PROMO CD SET ::::[/quote:2vbz3d78]
Nice, that’s a really rare set of CDs! Just curious, where/how did you find this, and was it expensive?[/quote:2vbz3d78]
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I just found two promos for 1979 and Bullet on my doormat, the ones in the red and purple sleeve and gold letters. Pretty cool! The seller even included a promotional Mellon Collie sticker
Still awaiting TheFutureEmbrace ep.[/quote:14oswjt1]do you have the Tonight Tonight promo (blue sleeve) as well?
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I just found two promos for 1979 and Bullet on my doormat, the ones in the red and purple sleeve and gold letters. Pretty cool! The seller even included a promotional Mellon Collie sticker
Still awaiting TheFutureEmbrace ep.[/quote:350id7sm]do you have the Tonight Tonight promo (blue sleeve) as well?[/quote:350id7sm]
No, I don’t! It would be pretty cool to have that one too. And Thirty-Three, of course!
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note that there are two different 1979 promos: one has the hut logo, the other one has the virgin logo.
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2981
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=151[/quote:24l6zlfs]I have the Virgin one.
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I just found two promos for 1979 and Bullet on my doormat, the ones in the red and purple sleeve and gold letters. Pretty cool! The seller even included a promotional Mellon Collie sticker
Still awaiting TheFutureEmbrace ep.[/quote:dqs4me10]do you have the Tonight Tonight promo (blue sleeve) as well?[/quote:dqs4me10]
No, I don’t! It would be pretty cool to have that one too. And Thirty-Three, of course![/quote:dqs4me10]
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I just found two promos for 1979 and Bullet on my doormat, the ones in the red and purple sleeve and gold letters. Pretty cool! The seller even included a promotional Mellon Collie sticker
Still awaiting TheFutureEmbrace ep.[/quote:3p8l7b1h]do you have the Tonight Tonight promo (blue sleeve) as well?[/quote:3p8l7b1h]
No, I don’t! It would be pretty cool to have that one too. And Thirty-Three, of course![/quote:3p8l7b1h]
I have thirty three if youre interested. I was gonna collect the uk ones but i would rather have the us ones with zero[/quote:3p8l7b1h]Cool! I’ll send you a PM right away!
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I just found two promos for 1979 and Bullet on my doormat, the ones in the red and purple sleeve and gold letters. Pretty cool! The seller even included a promotional Mellon Collie sticker
Still awaiting TheFutureEmbrace ep.[/quote:28urnxgj]do you have the Tonight Tonight promo (blue sleeve) as well?[/quote:28urnxgj]
No, I don’t! It would be pretty cool to have that one too. And Thirty-Three, of course![/quote:28urnxgj]
I only have this promo – but two of them! I’ll message you.
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Just bought a Virgin in-house video screener of The Everlasting Gaze (not on SPfreaks)
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Noooo kidding!
[/quote:23tkha3t]Do I look like I’m kidding?
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Another Dutch Celestials promo showed up on eBay! 2 days left!
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Even though it has been revealed to be a fake and a bootleg, I’ve wanted one of the Siamese wooden boxes for over a decade. I had an opportunity to score one and I thought it about time. So a few days ago, I did.
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If it was the one from eBay that went for almost $75 (I think it was a #300 range?), then you made a perfect deal! I paid quite a few bucks more for my #19, but it came with the original box also.Just curious kylie, does it have the red Made in Holland CD or the silver US CD? See also information and pics here: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=1697[/quote:22fq6s0r]
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Someone might be interested in this:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/music-instrume … 266660.htm[/quote:2aac2efi]
Plain copies of this box set (no autographs) sell on Amazon for US$165-US$340, so I have set a realistic price for an autographed version. [/quote:2aac2efi] lol!
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Finally! I won a 2CD set on eBay that was in my top 10 of most sought after SP items.
I already own the BBC In Concert 651 with a recording of the August 1995 Reading Festival performance of Smashing Pumpkins, but that 1CD release does not contain all songs played @Reading 1995 by Smashing Pumpkins. So I have been looking for one of the Westwood One radio promos with this festival performance of SP, and there are only four of them: #96-41 (almost complete), #97-15 (incomplete), #97-43 (incomplete) and #98-47 (complete).
In fact none of them are complete, since Fucky You (An Ode To No One) was never recorded/broadcast by BBC nor Westwood One. Anyway, #98-47 is supposed to contain the full Reading concert, as I found out years ago by an eBay auction of this 2CD set that I did not win. It is also supposed to contain Soma on the end of the radio show, not only my most favourite Smashing Pumpkins song, but it might also be a little discovery since SPLRA.org does not mention that it was played @Reading 1995, let alone that it is ‘out there’…
http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp1995-08-25
The Reading 1995 releases of Westwood One with Smashing Pumpkins are super scarce and highly sought after (the broadcast of BBC is close to impossible to find), but… I just won Westwood One #98-47. Hiha! Those little things make my weekend…
Keep you guys posted if Soma is on it, or not. If it is, it is most probably from another source anyway. Who knows!
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tristessa 7" t/p[/quote:1duboaxh]
Where’d you find that gem? Super jealous![/quote:1duboaxh]
by the way: just curious…
does anyone here own the one and only I Am One 7"t/p that got out (word of mouth has it that BC has two copies, three were made)? this one copy was sold long ago or at least put up for auction on eBay…
(damn myself: i remember clearly how it looked and all, might have saved the images then, but i did that on a work computer (as I haven’t had a computer until pretty much 2000+)… anyway… all my TSP-files I then copied onto ZIP-discs, gave those to Jeroen, he then transferred the files to CDRs for me and maybe I did put those back onto an old computer I no longer use (but still have in the attic)… I never threw any TSP-related stuff away, so these CDRs should be somewhere, just like the audio for the Still Life / TSP gig (very first Pumpkins show) where I had some snippets of (and one or two complete songs) from the Still Life set where BC filled in if I’m not totally mistaken… so many years ago… might need to bring my archive(s) back in working order I guess…
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i don’t even like posting in this thread anymore because i just feel like an asshole that is bragging. but i felt that one needed to be posted.
anyway, been working on acquiring that gem for over a year. very fair price. no real story, at least, not one i want to share. just a great seller and all around great person.
it’s my second copy that i currently have, so i’m holding it for a friend. i’m holding it ransom!
i bought a few other \"normal\" things though:
1979 mixes 12\" t/p (US version – to be confirmed)
bunch of promo tapes
MCIS 12\" with empty white box – FINALLY
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Zeitgeist CL CD (not promo, commercial release)
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tristessa 7" t/p[/quote:3iatizjo]
Where’d you find that gem? Super jealous![/quote:3iatizjo]
by the way: just curious…
does anyone here own the one and only I Am One 7"t/p that got out (word of mouth has it that BC has two copies, three were made)? this one copy was sold long ago or at least put up for auction on eBay…
(damn myself: i remember clearly how it looked and all, might have saved the images then, but i did that on a work computer (as I haven’t had a computer until pretty much 2000+)… anyway… all my TSP-files I then copied onto ZIP-discs, gave those to Jeroen, he then transferred the files to CDRs for me and maybe I did put those back onto an old computer I no longer use (but still have in the attic)… I never threw any TSP-related stuff away, so these CDRs should be somewhere, just like the audio for the Still Life / TSP gig (very first Pumpkins show) where I had some snippets of (and one or two complete songs) from the Still Life set where BC filled in if I’m not totally mistaken… so many years ago… might need to bring my archive(s) back in working order I guess…
…)[/quote:3iatizjo]i remember that going for sale on eBay when i was in college, so probably around 98-2000, somewhere in there. it went for $700ish. as i recall, the vinyl was yellow, but perhaps that was just the sleeve it came in. i think it was probably mike potentials copy. i didn’t bid, had no money then. oh well.
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Nice finds! Just curious, is the Lost Highway CD the stickered A Estrada Perdida version? I passed on a non-stickered version on eBay a few months ago, since I’m only looking for the stickered version. Most probably you beat me to that.
[/quote:35h7ys3j]mine has no sticker. i wanted that, but it was more $, so i settled on a cheaper version.
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Hi there, I recently got The Celestials US promo CD however when I went to rip the CD it was not an edited version but the same one that is on Oceania. The CD looks real enough and came from someone with over 10 years and 100% feedback on ebay so can someone else here who has this CD confirm that I have been ripped off.
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[/quote:xlwkf0oh]Thanks for checking, I feel better for that.[/quote:xlwkf0oh]
no problem. i need to adjust the entry as well. thanks!
just got the US MCIS Reissue CD in the mail with a promo hole punched out under the shrink wrap so i guess promos exist?
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I fell for it,thinking,
"why do they always release stuff when i’ve got no money?/how can i get the money for this?/at least i’ll have a record player when i buy this!"
Then I seen the date!
[/quote:27g98xfn]Same! I fell for it too, just minutes after not falling for a much better april fools prank. I guess i just get yoo excited over SP
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surely releasing a record player would be a definite commercial suicide for the pumpkins. can’t you just imagine the disaster that would be, hypothetically? it’s a stupid idea to begin with, but sp3 would take that to the next level. first of all the whole project would be delayed a couple of times. (this is just classic release strategy now. at this point, i’d ask my money back if there wasn’t a delay.) then topspin would fuck up. and then half of the record players wouldn’t function properly. next thing you know, billy is getting injured at a gig when people throw broken record players at him. monty starts crying. etc.
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surely releasing a record player would be a definite commercial suicide for the pumpkins. can’t you just imagine the disaster that would be, hypothetically? it’s a stupid idea to begin with, but sp3 would take that to the next level. first of all the whole project would be delayed a couple of times. (this is just classic release strategy now. at this point, i’d ask my money back if there wasn’t a delay.) then topspin would fuck up. and then half of the record players wouldn’t function properly. next thing you know, billy is getting injured at a gig when people throw broken record players at him. monty starts crying. etc.
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it all makes sense now. the aeroplane was never an aeroplane. it was a metaphor for a record player to be released and thrown at billy over a decade later. and since it flies high, maybe it will be made of lightweight composite materials. we obviously need to contact monte to get to the bottom of this. can anyone email him?
i believe, at this point, monte cries FOR billy so that he doesn’t have to.
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The SP shopping spree of last week in a nutshell: several radio promo cds, one of them containing \"Destination Unknown\". A promo compilation cd in a dvd case containing \"Freak\". And a Zeitgeist cd album pressed in Chile.
Not SP related, but I just have to mention it… Last week I was also very glad to have been in time to buy an extremely limited DVD release (50 only!) of one of my favorite bands, Magdalena Solis. It contains all their video work for the Hesperia album. NSFW, and not for the weak of heart too. For who’s interested: Jinxed, from the Lady Of The Wild Things EP, bonustrack of this DVD. As said, very NSFW.
http://player.vimeo.com/video/62634013
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:::: AVA ADORE US gold cd promo ::::[/quote:2nzyeg6z]
Nice find.I finally found a Q101 Machina II release. Unnumbered. The seller said he got it straight from a friend who worked at Q101 back then, but outside the radio contest. I believed him, because the pics looked genuine.
[/quote:2nzyeg6z]Lucky bastard! I missed out on a copy of this a few months back because i was new to ebay and didnt understand this automatic bidding stupidness….. I need this so bad! If you ever see one let me know!
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Did you set up automated Search already on eBay? I have several, and that is quite helpful. This one didn’t pop up in my Search yet, as it was immediately send to me by email by a friend. At first it was set up as a US only sale, but the seller was willing to ship to Europe, as it turned out. So yeah, I guess I was lucky… Never seen an unnumbered copy too! -
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#1422 & #1424
Both are still sealed, willing to sell or trade one if anyone needs one. Only interested in other vinyl![/quote:1lwxsfyu]
check out this thread: http://forum.spfreaks.com/viewtopic.php?t=1967
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[/quote:d90gruyb]:::: INCLUDING THE BEAUTIFUL 14 PAGES BOOKLET ? NOTICE IT’S A 1993 ITALIAN CD, NOT MADE IN US AS MENTIONED IN SPFREAKS PAGE AND THE ONLY BOOTLEG I WANT TO OWN ::::
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:::: INCLUDING THE BEAUTIFUL 14 PAGES BOOKLET ? NOTICE IT’S A 1993 ITALIAN CD, NOT MADE IN US AS MENTIONED IN SPFREAKS PAGE AND THE ONLY BOOTLEG I WANT TO OWN ::::[/quote:3ohdwsbp]’
Yes, the seller said it was never opened, so I guess it’s in mint condition, like the picture. I’ll check where it comes from after I receive it. If it is a bootleg (is it? how do you know?), and from Italy, I will correct that later. Thanks for the heads up, alladnzane! -
:::: INCLUDING THE BEAUTIFUL 14 PAGES BOOKLET ? NOTICE IT’S A 1993 ITALIAN CD, NOT MADE IN US AS MENTIONED IN SPFREAKS PAGE AND THE ONLY BOOTLEG I WANT TO OWN ::::[/quote:36n9iqb2]’
Yes, the seller said it was never opened, so I guess it’s in mint condition, like the picture. I’ll check where it comes from after I receive it. If it is a bootleg (is it? how do you know?), and from Italy, I will correct that later. Thanks for the heads up, alladnzane![/quote:36n9iqb2]:::: RED LINE WAS A FAMOUS ITALIAN BOOTLEG LABEL AND DISTRIBUTOR IN THE 90’S… BUT THIS CD IS UNIQUE. THAT’S WHY I WANTED IT. GOOD FINDING MAN ::::
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yay for my package.
i liked your bob stern article, by the way. very nice.
and what does the red vinyl look like? can you post a picture? i wonder how red it is.[/quote:1tdaj2nb]
thanks man. that means a lot to me. i hope perhaps 10 people enjoyed it. perhaps that’s overshooting slightly?
i’ll post a pic soon, since you asked. i assumed you already had this? anyway, it may take until the weekend, but a pic will be taken soon.
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It’s been a while! I did a lot of studying and little collecting the past weeks, but I’ve got a few additions to my collection: purple Zeitgeist, If All Goes Wrong (no I didn’t own it before
), Be Strong Now single, The End Is The Beginning Is The End (The Remixes) and last but not least: a VHS with a clean copy of The Everlasting Gaze video, used as a screener for Virgin. I’ll take some pics of that last one to add to the database. -
:::: INCLUDING THE BEAUTIFUL 14 PAGES BOOKLET ? NOTICE IT’S A 1993 ITALIAN CD, NOT MADE IN US AS MENTIONED IN SPFREAKS PAGE AND THE ONLY BOOTLEG I WANT TO OWN ::::[/quote:2zpvxw4j]’
Yes, the seller said it was never opened, so I guess it’s in mint condition, like the picture. I’ll check where it comes from after I receive it. If it is a bootleg (is it? how do you know?), and from Italy, I will correct that later. Thanks for the heads up, alladnzane![/quote:2zpvxw4j]:::: RED LINE WAS A FAMOUS ITALIAN BOOTLEG LABEL AND DISTRIBUTOR IN THE 90’S… BUT THIS CD IS UNIQUE. THAT’S WHY I WANTED IT. GOOD FINDING MAN ::::[/quote:2zpvxw4j]
It’s pristine, exactly like this pic:/IT/CD%20IT%20Grungea.jpg)
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Yeah, I might try that, because I want to know what live version of I Am One it is also… And there are many other good bands on it too! However, the thread is knotted in a certain way, it has made a mark in the cardboard, the cardboard is folded around the jewelcase and booklet several times in a certain way, and I might have hard times to bring it back to its original state.
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it’s like reverse collecting, but i bought bob stern two copies of that fallenrock single he was looking for and sent them off today!
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ha – that’s awesome![/quote:3vav0qkk]
bob confirmed receipt of the singles. look to listen to one of his fav songs soon on Vinyl Schminyl. i’ll look to post a link!
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:::: ARTHUR, IF IT CAN HELP YOU, THE 3.55 ‘ LONG VERSION OF "I AM ONE" KILLED ME WITH ITS 2 GREAT BILLY’S SOLO ::::
P.S. GOOD LUCK MAN[/quote:y5x3ghrs]
Does that mean you own a copy too? Bring in the rip! Bring in the rip! Please!?[/quote:y5x3ghrs]:::: YES. BUT FOR A MP3 I DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO. SOMEBODY WOULD HELP ME ? ::::
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:::: YES. BUT FOR A MP3 I DON’T KNOW HOW TO DO. SOMEBODY WOULD HELP ME ? ::::[/quote:3kdyjgty]
I use dBpoweramp to do that. If you have that installed, you can Right-Click on the cd player of your PC/laptop and choose "Rip with dBpoweramp". In the next screen you can choose Rip to Flac/MP3, the folder where you want the files to be dropped, etc.If I’m right, it is also possible to rip CDs to MP3 files with the Windows Media Player, but I don’t know how that works.
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bob confirmed receipt of the singles. look to listen to one of his fav songs soon on Vinyl Schminyl. i’ll look to post a link!
[/quote:3r0emz60]nice – I just listened to Bob Stern’s interview with Billy (about a year late, haven’t been keeping up with interviews) – really great interview, I liked his selection of songs, and ending with Sweet Sweet
For anyone (probably no one) who hasn’t listened to it: http://vinylschminyl.com/Vinyl_Schminyl_Radio.html
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Got my tbk ep1 promo through the post just now, not in very good condition but you cant get them all excellent/mint!
Anyone know where i can buy some plastic cd cover things they sometimes send them in? Need some more now ive got some cds with cardboard sleeves with no protection[/quote:2vp26z9t]
I got some covers from a pc store,but i think they are mainly for cdrs.Most of my card sleeves fit,however my Australian ones don’t and my TBK ones don’t either.
Ebay is a good bet,but just make sure they give you the dimensions.
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Got my tbk ep1 promo through the post just now, not in very good condition but you cant get them all excellent/mint!
Anyone know where i can buy some plastic cd cover things they sometimes send them in? Need some more now ive got some cds with cardboard sleeves with no protection[/quote:41flubl4]
I got some covers from a pc store,but i think they are mainly for cdrs.Most of my card sleeves fit,however my Australian ones don’t and my TBK ones don’t either.
Ebay is a good bet,but just make sure they give you the dimensions.
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Missed out on that EU copy of the celstials, cant believe it went for £105![/quote:390ujjek]
Can’t believe it too. I’m happy to have found that EU/NL promo already outside eBay (for 1/3 of that price, which seems OK to me) but I’m still looking for the US Panopticon promo. I refuse to pay more than $100.00 for Panopticon, but so far they all go beyond my limits. What is it with the Oceania promos? -
Missed out on that EU copy of the celstials, cant believe it went for £105![/quote:37h73e8w]
Can’t believe it too. I’m happy to have found that EU/NL promo already outside eBay (for 1/3 of that price, which seems OK to me) but I’m still looking for the US Panopticon promo. I refuse to pay more than $100.00 for Panopticon, but so far they all go beyond my limits. What is it with the Oceania promos?[/quote:37h73e8w]I really want Panopticon too, any Celestials promo will do me.
I guess people are panic buying them due to not knowing how rare they are. Im sure a good few more of each will pop up sooner or later
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i finally obtained siamese dream on "red" vinyl. it could be more red, but it’s close enough i guess.
perfect 7"
no alternative 12"
mcis reissue vinyl from canada – amazing price, under $40 (this one is getting opened)
and a never ending cascade of more in the mail!
[/quote:3fptwcmz]Any pics of the red SD?
I’d love a red one!
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Most recent addition to the collection.[/quote:1xfzdcn4]
I bet you went there, Spag?[/quote:1xfzdcn4]
Yep, I did. I am quite happy with this one. The guy who sold it to me said he was thinking of throwing it in the garbage until he realised maybe someone was willing to him a few euros for it.[/quote:1xfzdcn4]
Lucky you! I was at that concert too. Balcony on the right side, if I remember well. The sound wasn’t too good, that’s what I do remember though. -
Missed out on that EU copy of the celstials, cant believe it went for £105![/quote:34qx4ycl]
Can’t believe it too. I’m happy to have found that EU/NL promo already outside eBay (for 1/3 of that price, which seems OK to me) but I’m still looking for the US Panopticon promo. I refuse to pay more than $100.00 for Panopticon, but so far they all go beyond my limits. What is it with the Oceania promos?[/quote:34qx4ycl]I really want Panopticon too, any Celestials promo will do me.
I guess people are panic buying them due to not knowing how rare they are. Im sure a good few more of each will pop up sooner or later[/quote:34qx4ycl]
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i finally obtained siamese dream on "red" vinyl. it could be more red, but it’s close enough i guess.
perfect 7"
no alternative 12"
mcis reissue vinyl from canada – amazing price, under $40 (this one is getting opened)
and a never ending cascade of more in the mail!
[/quote:ce28da2f]Any pics of the red SD?
I’d love a red one![/quote:ce28da2f]
yeah, i gotta get on that. i’ll try to tonight
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Anybody know if this is real? Could find it in the database
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Anybody know if this is real? Could find it in the database
http://www.ebay.com/itm/321131378408[/quote:19p6m88q]
i think it’s real.ps: check out your new ebay link. PRETTY!
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:::: ARTHUR, IF IT CAN HELP YOU, THE 3.55 ‘ LONG VERSION OF "I AM ONE" KILLED ME WITH ITS 2 GREAT BILLY’S SOLO ::::
P.S. GOOD LUCK MAN[/quote:27j1knfi]
the show has been located. thanks to ben from splra.org.i am one was recorded on 1991-08-20. this recording is available on the bootleg "virgins". according to spfc.org, this bootleg cd was released by "red robin records". (and not "red line". but maybe they’re related?)
http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp1991-08-20
http://archive.org/details/tsp1991-08-20.silvercd
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\"virgins\" bootleg on spfreaks.com: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1370
and \"grunge\" compilation: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2442i think the \"virgins\" bootleg sounds better than the \"grunge\" compilation.
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and "grunge" compilation: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2442i think the "virgins" bootleg sounds better than the "grunge" compilation.[/quote:1gxq59p9]
i have that boot. it’s a badass show
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:::: ARTHUR, IF IT CAN HELP YOU, THE 3.55 ‘ LONG VERSION OF "I AM ONE" KILLED ME WITH ITS 2 GREAT BILLY’S SOLO ::::
P.S. GOOD LUCK MAN[/quote:tqss6msb]
the show has been located. thanks to ben from splra.org.i am one was recorded on 1991-08-20. this recording is available on the bootleg "virgins". according to spfc.org, this bootleg cd was released by "red robin records". (and not "red line". but maybe they’re related?)
http://www.splra.org/wiki/index.php?title=Tsp1991-08-20
http://archive.org/details/tsp1991-08-20.silvercd
http://www.spfc.org/songs-releases/boot … oot_id=115[/quote:tqss6msb]:::: THANK YOU ::::
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AFTERNOON DELIGHT, LOVE SONGS FROM SUB POP CD FEAT.\" LA DOLLY VITA\"
BEST OF GRUNGE ROCK CD FEAT. \"BURY ME\"
GUITAR OKE CD SAMPLER FEAT. \"BULLET\"
IT STANDS FOR ALL FEAT. \"WE ONLY COME\"
ALL AREAS VOLUME 23 CD SAMPLER FROM VISIONS
ROCK SOUND CD SAMPLER VOL.59 FEAT. \"WAITING\"
MONITOR THIS! CD SAMPLER FEAT. \"SATURNINE\"TO BE COMPLETED…
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Seriously, that pic made me lol and omfg at the same time. Sorry to see this, Spag.[/quote:3vuohoz8]
Bought it on ebay. The guy who sold it to me gave me back my money immediately, 2 euros plus shipping costs. Apperently, it isn’t the first time this has happened to him. He just sends his stuff in cheap envelopes and hopes it stays in one peace during shipping.
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Recently Received:
Siamese Dream Pink Vinyl – not a bad price $47.00Recently won:
33 UK CDR PROMO
BWBW UK CDR PROMO, do not think it is on site yet??http://www.ebay.com/itm/261222986426?ss … 1497.l2649
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BWBW UK CDR PROMO, do not think it is on site yet??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261222986426?ss … 1497.l2649
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BWBW UK CDR PROMO, do not think it is on site yet??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261222986426?ss … 1497.l2649
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Cool find! And indeed, that is an unknown type, so far. Would you be so kind to send in scans after you received it? Thanks, man![/quote:255bzcya]No problem!
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http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=852[/quote:uu7m2fv8]
if you look closely, yours is slightly different
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I think we are not talking about the same person here. Ed, as I know him, has been very helpful quite a few times with Taiwanese translations, and pointing out boots where we thought it are genuine releases. And I bought quite a few TW releases from him. They are always well packed, with tons of friendly communication in the meantime.
Or this is another silly manilla joke, I bet.
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I’m waiting for a promotional copy of American Gothic to arrive. Recently added a Tarantula promo and a That’s The Way promo to my collection.
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I see a new Ayoe standing up here… (inside joke, King, I’ll explain @SP gig in July lol)[/quote:3od8cn79]ayoe destroyed even you and i. there will never be another ayoe
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Meanwhile building on my own humble legacy…
It cost me 2 months budget, but I obtained 5 stunning items the past few days. Part of this is sponsored by my wife though, who still had to give me a birthday present lol. Can’t wait to receive them!
-I Am One 7\" US (my current forum avatar lol)
-Bullet With Butterfly Wings Townhouse UK acetate
(talking about Ayoe, she once owned this Townhouse rarity, it will now be reunited with Townhouse Cherub Rock)
-Batman & Robin interview promo (contains The End Is The Beginning Is The End)
-2 rare unused Sub Pop/Caroline posters
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If win the lottery I’d buy this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/BILLY-CORGAN-Or … 3f1dc90f41
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MCIS on double cassette. I’d like to get more cassette because I like the idea of collecting a dead medium, you know
[/quote:l3y2lcio]I’m with you!
[/quote:l3y2lcio]me too!
Latest item: Smashing Pumpkins Sacred and Profane tour backstage pass, I know not many people want these, but this is one from their last show in London – although I was in London at the time, I didn’t go for various reasons.
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Also: http://www.nachtkabaret.com/SmashingPum … fAntiquity
downloaded – part of my digital collection now
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Listened to Q101 MII in the end, sounds great. Good to listen to it with much less crackling and shit going on[/quote:17g5e2gb]
Unless your cd player eats 5 out of 10 cds lately, which means it needs to be replaced urgently, you can always play any cd. Some cd-rs might be unplayable on some cd players, but neither cd nor cd player will be harmed in the process of finding out. Vinyl is a different story though.Glad you enjoyed MII!
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Some Pumpkins helped me pick up some gems as well. 27 records in all, nearly all of them 7\" vinyl.
Worth noting the Rhinoceros/Siva 7\" promo, Teargarden volume #1 (sealed), Pisces Iscariot w/7\" #319, two copies of pink Tristessa 7\" and many more… just need the grey Tristessa 7\" and I will have every Pumpkins 7\" record released!
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adore CD from VE (venezuela)
siamese dream cassette from NZ to replace the one my daughter cut up. there’s a 33 cassette on eBay now from NZ as well. hefty price though.[/quote:jmxwyrdf]Thats cool. Ive been thinking about collecting up some cassettes now im nearly sorted cd wise, but i have HMM promo. What are some of the good colectors tapes out there, like rare or unusual ones, any essentials or any cassette exclusives? Cheers
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adore CD from VE (venezuela)
siamese dream cassette from NZ to replace the one my daughter cut up. there’s a 33 cassette on eBay now from NZ as well. hefty price though.[/quote:nkz9lhtj]Thats cool. Ive been thinking about collecting up some cassettes now im nearly sorted cd wise, but i have HMM promo. What are some of the good colectors tapes out there, like rare or unusual ones, any essentials or any cassette exclusives? Cheers[/quote:nkz9lhtj]
if you’re going to start collecting cassettes, for rare ones, you’re in for a ride. some of the hardest ones to obtain are NZ pressings. then promos, test cassettes. then basically any AU cassette in good condition, starting with siva and i am one. perhaps even harder or equally as hard, are JP promo cassettes.
there are a few one ofs as well, plus the early demo cassettes, especially ones w/ billy’s handwriting. i could go on and on! i think i have around 20 cassette releases or so for siamese dream, alone.
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adore CD from VE (venezuela)
siamese dream cassette from NZ to replace the one my daughter cut up. there’s a 33 cassette on eBay now from NZ as well. hefty price though.[/quote:2nj33b68]Thats cool. Ive been thinking about collecting up some cassettes now im nearly sorted cd wise, but i have HMM promo. What are some of the good colectors tapes out there, like rare or unusual ones, any essentials or any cassette exclusives? Cheers[/quote:2nj33b68]
if you’re going to start collecting cassettes, for rare ones, you’re in for a ride. some of the hardest ones to obtain are NZ pressings. then promos, test cassettes. then basically any AU cassette in good condition, starting with siva and i am one. perhaps even harder or equally as hard, are JP promo cassettes.
there are a few one ofs as well, plus the early demo cassettes, especially ones w/ billy’s handwriting. i could go on and on! i think i have around 20 cassette releases or so for siamese dream, alone.
[/quote:2nj33b68]Thanks, ill keep an eye out
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The SP eBay people, they send this poster together with the two posters I ordered a while back. I did not order this one, but it was shoved in the tube they used for sending the posters anyway. I read the feedback of them on eBay, and they happen to add these little surprises every now and then, obviously. Pretty awesome!
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The SP eBay people, they send this poster together with the two posters I ordered a while back. I did not order this one, but it was shoved in the tube they used for sending the posters anyway. I read the feedback of them on eBay, and they happen to add these little surprises every now and then, obviously. Pretty awesome!
[/quote:21msvgbe]Nice. They surprised me with extra posters and backstage passes too.
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I have that same Zeitgeist poster signed by Billy, Jimmy, Jeff and Ginger (with a drawing of a stick woman from her)
Really glad to have Ginger’s autograph. Havent seen a lot of them and have autographs from almost every other member over the years[/quote:mxr7wsol]
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We spend 9 days in Ireland, and it is confirmed: there are no typical Irish releases of Smashing Pumpkins to be found. Just received an email from a friendly guy called Nathan, who works in a cool music shop I visited in Kenmare in the south of Ireland (http://www.soundzofmuzic.ie), and being a Smashing Pumpkins fan himself, he looked it up for me.
Thanks Nathan!
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Been a little quite lately just got or on the way:
Cassettes:
33 New Zealand[/quote:zsftwxgw]How do you find these?
[/quote:zsftwxgw]This one was just on eBay, located in Australia, cost a bit. I am always looking locally for the NZ cassettes, but they never surface. If I find any I would let members on here know about them.
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Congrats everybody on their latest finds! The Delabel promos are quite something, lots of people were looking for (and bidding on) that!
Obtained a Japanese Warner promo compilation with Tarantula on it.
Next to this I’m having three Smashing Pumpkins posters being framed as we speak. One is done, but the other two are still ‘under construction’. Should be done halfway September, will show off with a few pics then.
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:::: THE TRIP 6 NZ CASSETTE FEATURING "QUIET" ::::[/quote:3i3xlte5]
Nice to find the cassette! I found a CD version today – $3 at a 2nd hand shop – so I got it
[/quote:3i3xlte5]:::: LUCKY YOU !!!! IF THERE IS ANOTHER ONE PLEASE THINK OF ME ::::
[/quote:3i3xlte5] Will do – you may not like the postage cost for it though!
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Just found the Oceania live DVD on my doormat![/quote:39j3r4c5]
Is it good?[/quote:39j3r4c5]I like it. Although I was never really into the idea of them playing Oceania from start to finish, it must have been a special experience I regret I missed out on. Sound and image quality are excellent and the package is nice too (at least of the dvd+cd version, the rest I haven’t bought yet).
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Soon to arrive, a bunch of cool Smashing Pumpkins stuff.
The Aeroplane Flies High CD/DVD reissue box
Oceania Live in NYC 2CD/DVD
Oceania Live in NYC 2CD/DVD Japan
Oceania Live in NYC Blu-Ray
Oceania Live in NYC DVD
Oceania Philippines (sealed, with tour sticker)
Picses Iscariot Philippines[/quote:35tag6id]Nice! Since I’m broke, I’m just gonna drool at all the cool stuff you guys are buying.
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I got the Oceania Live in NYC this Saturday, DVD+2CD version. The filming is pretty slow-paced, clearly made for 3D, but the show itself is really good. X.Y.U. is by far one of the coolest songs on there (goosebumps Arthur?
) and it’s cool to have an official release of The Dream Machine! So yeah, well worth it![/quote:2mzzee2x]I like slow paced. Makes me think of a line by Tricky (song with the Pumpkins sample, actually):
MTV moves too fast/I refuse to understand.
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I got the Oceania Live in NYC this Saturday, DVD+2CD version. The filming is pretty slow-paced, clearly made for 3D, but the show itself is really good. X.Y.U. is by far one of the coolest songs on there (goosebumps Arthur?
) and it’s cool to have an official release of The Dream Machine! So yeah, well worth it![/quote:97x0sz6v]
Absolutely! Also rockin’ out on the complete encore, and yes indeed, again goosebumps on X.Y.U.. I freakin’ love that song, it immediately brought me back to Paradiso! -
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Oh, really? http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3835
I’m reporting a Brazilian release of ‘If All Goes Wrong’. And a Gish longbox from the US. And a Thai DVD release of Oceania Live In NYC. And an US Panopticon tour promo single (finally!).
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Oh, really? http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3835
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never mind, i found it on discogs: http://www.discogs.com/Smashing-Pumpkin … se/4779065
Tracklist
A1 Tonight, Tonight
A2 1979
A3 Cupid de Locke
A4 Thirty Three
A5 Take Me Down
A6 Bullet With Butterfly Wings
B1 To Fogive
B2 Muzzle
B3 Blank
B4 Tonight, Tonight
B5 Ugly
B6 Cherry
B7 Said SadlyNotes
A1-A6, B1-B2 Recorded Live at JJJ Studios Request Lounge, Sydney Australia 13.3.1996
B3-B7: Studio demos 1995Pressed on Red, White, Blue Vinyl.
[/quote:l960xpnt]entry on another website here: http://www.northernvolume.com/smashing- … lp-record/
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Just won these: have been trying to get the 1991-1998 for ages
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Just won these: have been trying to get the 1991-1998 for ages
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i also won that one fairly recently, after trying to get it for years.i see this one went for $73 only.
i won mine for $102. and i thought that was a good price.
$73 seems like a real bargain. these used to go for a lot more, if i remember correctly. -
Just won these: have been trying to get the 1991-1998 for ages
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i also won that one fairly recently, after trying to get it for years.i see this one went for $73 only.
i won mine for $102. and i thought that was a good price.
$73 seems like a real bargain. these used to go for a lot more, if i remember correctly.[/quote:e1h6a8i5]That is exactly right in my opinion. They have gone for much more in the past. I got a real bargin
I was the 2nd place bidder on the copy you won. -
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Now I also found a Japanese promo for the Oceania Live In NYC 2CD/DVD release. Happy!
Here’s a pic of that signed promo CD I bought last weekend. For some reason I love it. Especially Melissa made her signature quite extraordinary, with extra XX, and an arrow! And all autographs are crystal clear too!
Furthermore, I have the idea that Billy wrote 99 at his signature. He is known to write a year next to his autograph on many occassions, mostly as a full year though. It should have been 1999 then. So maybe it’s something else (a heart)? When it turns out to be 99 indicating the year it was signed, it makes this promo CD quite something. So far I have never seen an autographed Smashing Pumpkins item from 1999, a year when not much happened in SP world, public appearances-wise.
And we know this promo CD was released in December 1999, so it must have been signed almost immediately in its month of release then. Most likely locations where it was signed were at the two Metro, Chicago gigs the band did that month. The seller had no clue however; he bought it from someone in Michigan, and that’s all he knew about it. He only suggested, without knowing for sure, there might have been a signing session with Smashing Pumpkins in that same period in Michigan.
What are your thoughts, fellow collectors?
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A friend just told me it’s not 99, but a heart or star doodle. We know of a December 1999 Metro flyer that was signed by Billy Corgan, and he clearly wrote 1999 there. At the Machina era signing sessions in 2000 this promo cd was given away and sometimes signed. Also many Machina lithos were signed during these sessions. We have a few examples of them on SPfreaks in the Autographs section. Melissa kept her signature more ‘simple’ most of the times with just an X before and after MAdM. Good to know!
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