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wait, did I buy this from YOU Manilla? or we have two identical cassettes, with the same explanation (and the same sticker wrinkle)?? 🙂
exactly-as I said before,I mailed him and he really sounded as he sincerely believed owning some kind of treasure on his shelf.This proving the (not so common) idea that sincere ignorance makes more damage than intended fraud sometimes.
placed a bid on that siva as well- went over the hill for me as well
oh by the way,back to fairly priced items…does anything beat this one?http://www.ebay.it/itm/CD-SMASHING-PUMP … 336e3c6dba
for the record,the description reads \"one ultra mega ORIGINAL copy of machina II,on costantinopole records,not the promo downloaded from the internet\"
I Tried to tell my fellow italian there’s something wrong with his concept of \"original\"-also linked him straight to the dedicated spfreaks link-but he insists on saying it’s the real thing.
Was about to get quite mad bout that..mail him back…and back…..but after all…its sunday,its sunny here in southern italy and berlusconi’s gov’s over.. why screwin’up such a promising day?all previous buyers seem to be happy with it, if you look at their feedback. i see no reason to worry here. unless the copy that arrives doesn’t look as nice as the one in the picture, of course.
this is probably a guy who found a box full of daphne descends promos. good for him. and good for the people who can pick up a copy for â¬66 because of it.[/quote:3r24npwd]
quick update-it arrived today.flawless condition.
I hate to tell you guys, but they’re back, for 1/9th of the original price.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smashing-Pumpkins-u … 0594411401[/quote:7aaokw06]
"They’ll haunt you,chase your dreams,check where you live….and,once u think they’re gone,
before u can SCREAM for help
…they’ll be forever settled in yr house" 
form "The weird case of the 1989 acetates"..ON EBAY,NOW.
and you can see the vinyl isn’t entirely made out of vinyl. it looks like metal near the hole in the middle
good point here-I’ll ask the seller if the center is made of aluminum,then those are definitely acetates-otherwise i’d say test pressing- way too expensive anyway.
oh, i believe so too.
i don’t know if these were used in the process of creating the bootleg singles, or if someone made these at home though. but it looks like the content is the same as on "1989 demos".i got a bit confused with "hence a bootleg".
the "white inside" is the label. the acetate doesn’t have a label. this seems perfectly normal to me, and i can’t make any deductions from it like "hence a bootleg".
i probably didn’t understand you correctly.here u’re right,mine was a rough way to say "hence those are(a test pressing of) a bootleg
thanx for the info Bram,this sure needs some further investigation-given I haven’t paid for it yet..
it’s unlikely he’s getting the copy in the picture. this is the 4th copy this ebayer has offered for sale recently, all with the same picture.[/quote:2lrlvyrl]
wtf?[/quote:2lrlvyrl] i hadn’t been able to check the pictures on ebay before in full size. they definitely look like acetates (or whatever they are called) and not like normal vinyls.
and what are you saying, buipesto? that these are bootlegs from the bootleg? haha.[/quote:1p1dcj9f]
Im sayin’those could be some kind of first pressing of the 1989 demos
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1534not sure though.
this is what the seller answered when I asked him to give them a listen-and report at least some of the lyrics -:
\"Ok, I just listned to them. One of them has the lyrics \"if you see her, tell me why\" and when I googled that, it came up with the song \"bury me\". The other side I believe is \"I am one\" judging from my google search. These are very raw recordings. Hope that helped.\"
I assume they’re some kind of test pressing of the 1989 7\"demos,since the normal pressing (in black vinyl) is white inside,whereas these on ebay are black..
-hence a bootleg-..and another one here,obscured 12 vinyl
http://www.discogs.com/Smashing-Pumpkin … se/1705256
I dont know if anyone posted it before,anyway it should be on the unoff.vinyl section as well.
although i like a lot the idea of makin a vinyl of my favourite sp song.[/quote:5ab51ezm]
i believe we’ve discussed this one on here before.
but in my memory the sleeve had red letters on a white background. maybe this is a different version of the same bootleg?[/quote:5ab51ezm]most probably-i recall that one too-only colours seem to be different though,the rest being the same-i’ll try to find a pic of that one
its on ebay now,for anyone interested:
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie … :MESELX:IT[/quote:18dvgzxd]first time I got a refund due to excess of delivery costs!
I thought everyone should know that
thanks!![/quote:18dvgzxd]definitely cool. thanks for sharing.
[/quote:18dvgzxd]thanx-well i just hate when they rip me off on those,so…
anyway this doesn’t mean I wouldnt come to anyone’s house at night in ninja outfit to steal the sp items u own where i’d be missing them...and another one here,obscured 12 vinyl
http://www.discogs.com/Smashing-Pumpkin … se/1705256
I dont know if anyone posted it before,anyway it should be on the unoff.vinyl section as well.
although i like a lot the idea of makin a vinyl of my favourite sp song.i think it’s awful that these exist. some people are making absolutely crappy copies of rare albums on vinyl, and they even get rewarded for it.
and pisces iscariot doesn’t work on blue vinyl. that’s just wrong.[/quote:5qq5c3qz]
absolutely right. I entered the forum this morning as I wanted to start a topic just to point out the spreading of these on ebay.. and arthur we should add’em to the unofficial vinyl section by the way-yust to make it clear they are FAKES. To me they seem to come from the same MCIS triple vinyl bootleg-
the funny stuff is that there is a fake yellow PI vinyl now,harder to detect on pictures-an least for non-experts..its on ebay now,for anyone interested:
http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie … :MESELX:IT
