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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI_pPEysgYQ[/youtube]
not really my style, but this song is pretty awesome.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhMBrg2lck[/youtube]
wrong song, meant this one. sorry.
lmao.
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i think i need to send the pics to debby first and then if she wants she can post. they wouldn’t let us take pictures in the venue, and debby wouldn’t let me take her picture while eating, if i remember correctly.
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that wouldn’t be the best promotion for a car alarm.
would you buy a car alarm that can be disarmed with a smile? everyone – except the extremely grumpy – would be able to get into your car.[/quote:1s4az8s1]haha. aren’t most car thieves pretty downtrodden people though?
that would make sense. i wish we could track down the commercial. was it aired in the US or Europe?
also, it would make more sense if it was used in a car \"alarm\" commercial.
you know, billy walks up to the car, smiles, and disarms the car alarm…and a 3rd version of the FR 1979 single too! http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3614
1. yep: it’s very difficult with the SD 12"s. at least there was no WL promo for the SD 7"s so those are all test presses.
2. anyone, indeed, could have just written ‘test pressing’ on a WL LP for MACHINA, correct. Still, sometimes these TPs don’t yet have the matrix stamper or another matrix code than the finished and approved one and that could be a clue. I don’t think, as far as I know, this applies to TSP, but this is known for others band in collectors circles.
3. you might be able to tell the difference…
normally a true TP will not come with a generic sleeve or a sheet with info or bio/promo. these are usually in non-production sleeves and could come with a reference / check sheet for quality inspection of the pressing. these tend to get lost sometimes. especially in the UK WL promo 12"s were widely used in advance promotion. this has something to do with copyrights too in a way.however: think about it….
if it SOUNDS like the official commercial release, the chance is immense these WL promo 12"s are in fact stamped from the same master. because: you would not want to promo out a non- approved copy/master, right? now, it’s pretty likely the mastering / pressing plant does a sterling job and the TP is right away approved. normally there are 5 – 10 TPs for any given release to be checked. if these are OK-ed then production is started. first with the WL 12"s promos and then with the commercial release form. so sonically there might be a way to tell any difference, however slight…
i know for a fact there’s a TP for MACHINA on which the A SIDE was not playable due to the massive bass levels in TEG. even now it’s massive, still. BC had them recut the A SIDE, at least. when confronted with the massive bass levels, BC in person told me: "well tough luck, it was even worse with the first cut"…
there are also releases (haven’t checked for TSP though) in which the matrix codes don’t match up for example, the A SIDE has a different code when compared with the B SIDE. normally these will match as the stampers for a pair. just imagine the codes do match on a WL copy but don’t on the first pressing of the commercial release, then the WL is definately a TP. that’s a clue somewhere down the line a new master / stamper was made with another matrix code.
4. Tristessa -> the 5 red ones are all true TPs, indeed.
5. PS -> a reaction form might indeed point in the direction of a TP. depends an which kind of form it is.
6. SIYL WL 12" -> the DJ sheet to me only confirms it was used as a WL promo 12". for TP use they would have used a different quality check form.
7. for the CR 12" -> if the TP was OK-ed first time around, then it’s virtually impossible to tell any difference, unless you know the lineage / provenance for sure. if the matrix codes are the same as the commercial release, then this would look like the first TP was perfect already. still: technically, the TPs and WLs will not have been mixed up, because the WLs were pressed only after the OK on the TPs. can you tell now? i guess not, onyl, maybe if you can hear any difference…or for sure know it’s the TP, because of the provenance.[/quote:17km6834]
Here is the reaction report I am referencing:
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yeah, that’s my point. maybe i do own a test pressing and then it just got passed on as a white label promo. for these particular releases (SD 12\" singles), i think any test pressings were handled this way.
i used to own two copies of the machina 2LP promos. both IDENTICAL, except one read test pressing and one was blank. it was handwritten on the white label. i sold the one that said test pressing, because i like clean copies.
so, to me anyway, there is no difference (with respect to those two examples).
but like i’ve said before, if you take the tristessa 7\", for a specific example, that’s a test pressing because it was never meant to serve any promotional purposes (or porpoises, for that matter). it’s gotta be impossible to know if any of these SD 12\" wlps are test pressings versus wlps. i can go get a sharpie right now and turn my wlp into a test pressing. know what i mean?
one copy of my peel sessions comes with a reaction report. a piece of paper attached to it to describe any errors. but even that is just a piece of paper attached to the outside of a normal-looking wlp. does that make it a test pressing then?
i also have a dj report for my stand inside your love 12\" wlp, but i wouldn’t reclassify that as a test pressing. even though it very well could be. i guess it depends on the ultimate use of the vinyl.
i think the cherub rocks are all test presses mixed in with wlps. i don’t think you can distinguish the two. at least, no one has been able to yet…???
if you rearrange the letters in ‘corgan’ and ‘solis’, you get ‘ass coloring’. might be another hidden message.
The Coral Sea – In Between the Days
In between the days
Sometimes you need a change
Give your tears a treat
I want to make your heart beatI miss my world somebody kill me
I miss my world somebody thrill meJust draw just draw your dream
A place you can project your day dreamsI want to do something
That takes my breath away
And makes me not want to go home
At the end of the dayTruth soaks sadly in song
While you get to swim in my palmMade in Heaven live your style
What are you waiting for
You don’t need to make others change their view
For you to make a decisionI want to do something
That takes my breath away
And makes me not want to go home
At the end of the dayIn between the days
yup deftones. ttt (crosses), chino’s side project band has a limited edition vinyl (500), that will be purchased as soon as money allows…
no, it’s just a feeling i got. there is nothing in there that really gives anything away. it feels like the end though. explaining songs, finally providing official gish lyrics (how long did that take?), reissuing all your material (how many times can that be done?), last great album, moving on to new pursuits (tea club, book, wrestling). i feel a goodbye in a lot of these performances.
plus nicole has her own band and mike can go on to pursue drumming however he wants. jeff will have a phD soon. it makes sense to walk away. right now: destroy destroy destroy.
of course, i hope i’m completely wrong.
Cool hope you get a kick ass show too
