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take a look at this one present on ebay…
i think it will take place in our co(ol)lector site!
sorry, cannot link that one. just tape Cornerstone Player in ebay searching engine and details will appear…
get mine few time ago![/quote:2qza1ywc]

Can you scan it?

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yes, i think spaceboye’s point is, um, on point. meaning, it’s all about the display. they even say on their site that it’s about visuals more than acoustics, but that they do press sound into the metal. which isn’t saying much at all. edison did it with tin foil, but even he was able to play back mary had a little lamb. pretty impressive, really.

so if they are pressing sound into the metal, even if it’s complete nonsense or ambient noises or just scratches, it would still be interesting to hear some of these later records.

i get the sense that before this company started mass producing \"gold and platinum records\", they did use actual metal masters or whatever and maybe even vinyl in the earliest stages. but those could be completely arbitrary as well, even as recent as 1999, as provided in my example above.

whatever, we’ll never know, it’s just a curious thought…

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I know, but whatever that record is, it still plays something. I’m just curious what it is. Check out this guy’s story. Pretty funny.

http://www.kempa.com/2005/08/24/playing … um-record/

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So, since Zeitgeist was never pressed on vinyl, what record is in the award? What record is in ANY award for that matter. I did a little research, looks like vinyl typically is not used anymore at all. It’s basically nickel (platinum) or also nickel painted gold (gold). Any thoughts as to what record is actually on display here?

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yeah, it was just split up.

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another reason to tie the vinyl to the CD, is the jumbling of tracks 19-22 are exactly the same as on the CD version, which seems specific to this release(s) only.

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i just noticed the SIAE sticker from IT on the CD boot. i’m going with italy on this one. not sure if the bootleggers bootlegged the CD or what, but my guess is that is exactly what happened.

the CD mentions some actually bootleg label (i can’t make it out, i can just see the logo), but the vinyl does not. the vinyl also does not have a barcode. looks like a boot of a boot. molto triste.

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LOL, yeah, it’s crappy. we tweeted about this a couple of days ago, to alert people to the fake nature of it.

i will add it to the database, thank you for capturing all the \"shitty\" pictures.

also, from what i could tell, a lot of copies are available from italy. correlation?

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Like

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i didn’t either, it popped up on eBay.

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soooo, you’re saying they suck?

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awesome

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http://thepumpkins.net/contests/78-sp-t … ng-contest

some of these are pretty damn good. i liked the pulseczar one.

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since no one gives a fuck, let’s just say i found some more cool shit. ongoing.

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i find this taxonomy too detailed and subjective. i think these releases need to be filed under CDs (Official) or CDs (Unofficial).

From there, is it a promo? If yes, is it internal or public? that’s it.

so the MG CR CD goes under public, as he was not part of the internal label.

i don’t want to struggle with 10 different categorizations everytime i want to upload something. or change something in database already.

for example, in vinyl, for some reason, only 1 example is listed as Album (Compilation). I can think of MANY more examples that fall into that category, but for some reason, they are listed improperly.

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I’d say your Mark Goodier was never meant for public distribution, making it fall under the "internal" heading, whatever that ends up being.[/quote:4gs8w49g]
No, because Goodier was not "inhouse" (band, label, management, producer). He was a damn lucky BBC dj getting a 1 of a kind version of a song to have it played on the radio, maybe festivals, or maybe just at home. Mark is outside media, so the intended use of this release is different. Makes sense?[/quote:4gs8w49g]

No, not at all, when you consider 1 copy was made for one person. you don’t make 1 copy for one purpose for the intent of public distribution.

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If I follow these guidelines, then I hope the following examples are right?

M2 US cd set: test pressing
M2 UK cd set: media promo
Cherub Rock Mark Goodier: media promo
BBC Transcription discs: glass master
All inhouse cdrs: test pressing
All cdrs send out for promotional reasons: media promo

We might want to reconsider quite a few entries, manilla… [/quote:4w50rc5w]

Yeah, believe it or not, i’m still confused. hahahaha I’d say your Mark Goodier was never meant for public distribution, making it fall under the "internal" heading, whatever that ends up being.

But the UK Machina II promos seem to have been manufactured with the intent of public promotion (based solely on the numbers available), so they would NOT be internal, just as you have described. I would NOT file those two specific releases under the same heading, as you have.

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i also found a promo edition of the japanese release in 2011 of siamese dream. no gish yet.

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In your expert opinion, given todays market, what is a fair price to pay for a NM or better copy? I stopped looking for a copy over a year ago. And given SP vinyl prices are all over the map and flucuate far to much and far to often, any advice that the pros can offer would be helpful.[/quote:wni964tw]

for a sealed copy I’d say anywhere from 200 to 250 dollars would seem reasonable. not sealed, maybe 100 to 150? i bought mine a long time ago so i haven’t been paying attention to prices on this item.

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Here it is, finally. This doesn’t include any Zwan or bootlegs or a few more vinyls in the mail. I may add those later. Hopefully, it’s fun to look at!

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The \"CD Acetate\"

When mastering to CD the Recordable CD or CDR is used in a similar way to acetates, with the sound being checked from a CDR.

In the early days of the CD some dealers sold these CDRs for very high prices and referred to then as \"CD Acetates\". The CDs used genuinely in studio or pressing plant are just as rare as acetates, however the growing availability CD Recorders has made them very easy to duplicate of forge.
CDRs have also become so cheap that they are often used instead of promos, with hundreds being manufactured and distributed.
The term CD Acetate has not survived

Just bringing in some research…

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Is that Singles OST the same pressing that I have from Holland? It seems to be the only release with the yellow sticker on the front. If it is, it’s still not in the database. Not only did you pick up a LiD retail but a TP also…WELL DONE! And, those cardsleeves look amazing. I’m not even a CD collector but I’m impressed with your purchase.

I still need a regular retail LiD for my collection if anyone wants to help me out.[/quote:3benol8s]

Yup, that’s the one. Not sure why it’s not on the site yet, I’ll upload once I receive it. The Korean vinyl also has a yellow sticker, but it’s in Korean.

I’ll look out for a LID for you. How much you wanting to pay?

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ok. so we tweeted something about acetates today. after reviewing, i’ve come to this conclusion:

i only own ONE true acetate vinyl.

from now on, test presses and white label promos mean the same thing to me.

the record i’m speaking of is the tarantula uncut 7\". it’s obviously made of metal, not plastic. it even has a weird purple hue to it. it’s very heavy and is not flimsy at all.

i can snag a photo soon (hopefully).

anyway, test presses (take the tristessa 7\"), are nothing more than white label promos. in order to have a true acetate, it needs to me made of metal.

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this project is heating up. redwolf is hard at work and i will need to communicate any SPfreaks’ wants/needs quickly, so bring suggestions in, please. the window frame is limited. if you don’t ask for it now, well, you probably won’t get it. pretty much anything is on the table now.

also, an updated theme is desired. one that is more \"current\", but also classic. like a new tuxedo. bring in any suggestions please. i’m referring to artwork, fonts, layout, colors, etc.

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what are the vinyl record in white sleeves?[/quote:12de0w3g]
20 explosive hits test press and strange fruit 10 inch test press and the light into dark test press as well. this was a very very pricey purchase but I want all of these items pretty badly.

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