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Billy creates the vinyl, and burns this CD (or a few), most probably from the same studio master.[/quote:aexwn01f]
i think he let someone else create the cd (he can’t do this himself), sourced from a vinyl.all machina II’s out there are vinyl sourced.
Still I don’t know anything about the Four-Twenty shirt…
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check out this thread, it has a picture: http://forums.netphoria.org/showthread.php?t=148931Wouldn’t they call any cd they use to make a couple of promo copies a \"master cd\", no matter what the quality is?
and a question in response to your original question: do you know if the audio on that german promo is identical to one of the well-spread sources (spifc, q101, virgin)? or if not, is it inferior to those?
i don’t remember where i heard this, but somewhere in my memory it says this source isn’t really that good. i might be wrong.
anyway, this could have an influence on what people might want to pay for it. i mean, sure, it is rare as hell, but if it turns out to be sourced from mp3s from a source that runs a bit too fast, for example, then it loses a lot of its magic, in my opinion.I wasn’t referring to the possible existence of Masterdisk M2 cdrs, because I don’t think there will be any[/quote:lyoyn8qf]i was thinking the same thing. it wouldn’t make much sense.
the Masterdisks I referred to are like the Untitled and MCIS ones on this site.[/quote:37l7magr]
are you sure they exist for machina II?as far as i’m concerned, you and the crazy marriage woman are the same person.
Reaction SPfreaks: this is not the general attitude here, and we don’t allow this attitude here either. It stays as an example of how we don’t want people to treat other forummembers. Scolding, flaming, cursing, personal attacks to other forum members are not allowed, period. Do not mix the subject of the message with the object that brings the message.
Anything else on your site? I click the pic and nothing happens…[/quote:1ehupwiy]
haha, no, that’s basically all there is.
unless you like prayman: [url:1ehupwiy]http://users.telenet.be/crush/prayman/[/url:1ehupwiy]
i made those back in the day when billy had his light-blue website and was posting blogs about mother mary and praying.yeah, i think we have a bit of a misunderstanding here. i just made a screenshot of the ava adore video where he does the lip thing and then i clipped and resized it. that is all i did. i didn’t really do anything creative with it.
if you want another evil billy, check out my website: [url:2lf2u0ai]http://users.telenet.be/crush[/url:2lf2u0ai]
have been researching the "veronica grey" thing for several weeks.[/quote:2vn0sl5o]
why on earth would anyone do that?
i think simply ignoring the whole thing is the easiest and the best solution.
i made it myself, 4 years ago. it’s one of the only avatars that meets the avatar restrictions of this forum.
MACHINA – ALBUM COVER ARTWORK PROOF!!
NME SINGLES OF THE WEEK – CD
NOODLES IN FRENZY – CDRIFFS TOTAL GUITAR – CD[/quote:4f5uyfkc]
how much for any of these?
and does the riffs total guitar cd contain the actual pumpkins songs?I havent heard anything back yet, except for the 125-150 dollar one on Ebay. Sorry!! I was told he is on the lookout still![/quote:119y4sdv]that’s a good price, actually.
Yeah, not a big Bowie fan. I can imagine though, how much time and effort that would take, my god. Are you a fan?[/quote:14dzk64f]
i’m a fan. not a collector though. phew.i think they are just pumpkins t-shirts that mention \"420\", in reference to the many pot smokers in asheville.
([url:36y8vxc4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28cannabis_culture%29[/url:36y8vxc4])Is there any other band with comparable collections? I mean, I’ve been collecting for 12 years, and I’m nowhere near complete. What the hell? It’s seemingly impossible to collect every release from every country on every format.[/quote:3i3j2dee]
i think basically every band that has been around for over 10 years has a comparable collection.how about you try getting everything from david bowie? we’ll talk again in 12 years and see how much you got.
i also have a japanese lull promo, but the previous owner removed the sticker and scratched off the \"promo sample\" text.
it’s worthless now.
Go here Aurthur ,they have for download* Stellar*
http://www.myspace.com/thesmashingpumpkinsmusic[/quote:1i2eo8wj]
wow, i wonder how long it’ll take before they shut that account down.i’m not an itunes fan either, but i bought stellar for 99 cents. not a bad deal.
i was glad i was able to buy it separately. sometimes they force you to buy the entire album, because some of the tracks are not available individually.Speaking of which, where is Jimmy/D’Arcy for the Reel Time Sessions? They were around by then, correct?[/quote:3v6v79tz]
if you’re talking about the acoustic session: d’arcy was there, but jimmy wasn’t. jimmy’s absence was the main reason to record some acoustic songs. the plan was to record some songs with jimmy, but he didn’t show up, so they decided to try to record some songs anyway, because they already paid for the studio.
([url:3v6v79tz]http://www.spfc.org/band/studio.html?session_id=6[/url:3v6v79tz])i find it hard to believe some of you had never heard these songs before you read this thread. my face right now:
Thanks Superlordspamulon! Some information from our friends at ThePumpkins.net’s board where people are discussing this matter:
http://www.thepumpkins.net/forum/topic,1930.0/[/quote:16ai9gki]
i don’t like that website. in my opinion, it’s one of the worst places for discussing pumpkins releases or finding related information.
except for smiley – who is a netphoria poster in the first place, i believe – nobody even seems to understand what you’re talking about. "omg wut r u doin here we dont like you with ur website" "omg the coyle tape i never heard of that lol"i’m not trying to tell you what to do, of course, but i think these "info-fishing" threads would be more successful if you made them on the trading board on netphoria. there’s a lot of knowledge there.
I thought this was one of the first Pumpkins t-shirts. (pre-?)Gish era.
spfc.org backs me up on this: http://www.spfc.org/band/faq.html?faq_id=62
I still think this is just a matter of taste. You consider I Fall the start of the Pumpkins because two members recorded a song together and later released it on a Pumpkins tape. Hope does not count, because Billy recorded it solo, and because they never played it live.
This seems a bit arbitrary to me. A lot of Pumpkins songs were recorded by Billy Corgan alone, or were never played live. (Would you change your mind and consider the Pumpkins birthyear to be 1986 if they had played Hope live?)
I could say I agree, or disagree, and that would be it. There isn’t much to discuss, in my opinion.
Because I find it nothing more than a matter of taste, I don’t really care if people consider 1987 or 1988 to be the start of the Pumpkins. I think everyone says 1988 because that’s when the band was formed and when they started playing together as a 4-piece. If you want to take 1987 for all the reasons you mentioned, that is fine as well.
I also get the feeling that Billy doesn’t feel like mentioning that the Pumpkins originally had another drummer, so he leaves that out of the band’s history on purpose. Letting the band start in 1988 with him and James and a drum machine, later adding D’arcy and Jimmy, is probably very convenient for him.
And if you consider everything before 1988 not to be the Pumpkins, it isn’t even a lie.Either way, I agree with the fact that no website has correct recording info on I Fall: even spfc.org still says it was recorded in 1988. (They do mention that the early recording info is speculative, so I guess we can’t blame them.)
Good job! Go spfreaks!
