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Sorry, we as a site won’t highlight this. It just too immature. The twitter is just highlighting the positive of sp and collecting through spfreaks.[/quote:2kgfhbha]
OK, this is something I want to explain here also (sorry, off topic again!).When I set up the SPfreaks Twitter account a long time ago, this is EXACTLY what I wanted with it. So I understood this message right away, and I support it too. Let me be very clear about that. We have this forum for member opinions, interviews and articles, and we have the homepage news section where we can post any research and other news items, as long as they come from reliable and trustworthy sources. Over the years we posted several examples of myth busting news items, where egos were made, and also broken sometimes. And we will continue to do so.
So, please go check out what is going on on our Twitter account these days ( http://twitter.com/spfreaks ), which tripled the daily traffic to our website from 200 something to 600 something unique visitors, in just 5 days… And we started selling SPfreaks.com t-shirts again, to cover some costs of this thingy! And also, please bear in mind that I, and with me the mods of this website dedicated to the band Smashing Pumpkins, have several other things to take into consideration, next to handling the egos of our members and visitors, when it comes to this full blown but non-commercial hobby project. OK, nuff said.
Hehe, it turned out to be a very interesting topic, where some people, me included, got carried away a little. However, I’m glad it was reopened (I kindly suggested that), after this cool down period to reflect on the matters. So, please guys, hold your breaths a little when starting to post here again!
Furthermore, just my personal analysis, we have people gathered here with a lot of passion for the band, and with a lot of eye for details, and there it can go wrong when people start interpreting things that might feel as a \"truth\" somewhere. And we all make mistakes then… Lesson learned, for all of us, I hope. This forum WILL stay open for any opinion, for any person that can contribute to any topic in a positive way. Even when the message is sometimes not positive. And the message \"this vinyl is fucked up\" is indeed not positive. But for who?
OK, that’s how I returned back on topic. What we know so far is that there are rather stupid \"not-so-hidden\" messages on a high profile vinyl. Billy probably knows about it already, but said nothing in public so far. What’s next?
huh?
This brings a new dimension to this topic… Will the un-true poster please step forward? Or was it me?
But yeah, here’s a few suggestions.
-List of Our Collectors on the frontpage: goner. It’s way too long already… Luckily!
-Re-order Sitemap section, and what can stay, what can go? (About the band has a few dead links)
-Google like Search Engine, where we can type our own info, and check if it is on the website.
-I still love the BC background pic that doesn’t move when I scroll up and down, so I hope it can stay.
-Emails & Chatroom functionality should be restored.
-Page with list of songs, click on them and all releases/concerts etc where this song appears will be shown on a new page (not all setlists are in the database, so it won’t work fully at first).nice little surprise <=> SPfreaks Experience will be changing dramatically.[/quote:34v4ai52]
… contradictio in terminis … Quickly catching up, I was in a loooong meeting…
On a few things I read here and there: the positive thing that we always wanted to create here on SPfreaks, is that we want to help the SPfreaks members & collectors, and, in a way, the band at the same time. If we have a positive relationship between all these people, and maintain it, it will be beneficial for all of us. The more information we get directly from the band and its staff, the better! And I myself am VERY strict with rules of behaviour, even on the (anonymous) internet. We discussed this a few times before. And my opinion has not changed.
However, hot news is hot news, either good or bad. If someone doesn’t like the message, I wouldn’t give a fuck. Not even when Billy doesn’t like it. BUT! There is always the timing, and the means, aspect to a news item. In this case, when my tweet got deleted, I didn’t realize at the moment of posting it, that just screaming something like this matrix thing out there in public, is considered as \"look at ME and our website! And look at the face of that surprised Billy too, who just got backstabbed at the same time!\".
I hope you guys know what I mean. It’s not appropriate. Wrong timing, wrong means. What Sven did, trying to reach (friends of) Billy asap, and do further research, and then post the full story frontpage somewhere, that is more appropriate. Billy can’t stop the news, even if he wanted to. But what we can try to do as a community is \"behave, with respect\", at all times. And afterwards, I can understand that a person reading news about a hot and personal issue (Siamese Dream IS a very personal record to Billy!), while it is already \"out there for everybody\", feels like a double dagger in the back.
Thus, no issues with my tweet being deleted, because it contributes to a more positive atmosphere within existing relationships, and there is in no way censorship going on.
Second that, manillascissor. I gave it a thought also, because of course it is somewhat big news. It might lead to someone being fired at the vinyl plant, when Billy, the band or their management/staff really jump on it. It’s a really dirty spot on a world famous release, and it’s not a very funny message also. When the \"joker\" had put a hidden message like \"this is the best album ever bla bla bla\" then it would have been kinda cool, and it would have brought a big smile to everybody’s face.
When we jump on the bandwagon right now, and bring the news frontpage, it is not for the benefit of SPfreaks.com in the long term. At this moment we will then be the messenger, and who got always shot again? Think about that…
So I’m happy a Twitter moderator with a good feeling for short and long term interests for us SPfreaks and the SP community as a whole, deleted the Twitter message at this moment. Let Billy bring it out himself, and tell us what his actions are going to be. If he wants to bring it out, that is. He knows about it, and he was not amused, and I can understand that very well. Nuff said for the moment, I guess. It remains a cool find anyway, thanks to CAIC!
No, I wrote \"Hidden messages on the reissue vinyl? WTF? <<then a link to this topic @SPfreaks>>\". Maybe even the WTF is not allowed on Twitter? Actually, the SPfreaks twitter account is not run by me alone. Maybe one of the other guys has other plans with this news, and quickly deleted my tweet. I’ll have a look into this.
and hope someone can leave a tweet on this matter as per BC’s notice and hopefully we’ll hear from them…
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Don’t worry, it’s out there. anyone with a twitter account care to make a post on the rather curious etchings in the matrix code?[/quote:72j76l7z]
Geo? Apparently a guy, previously making SP cd boots, changed his career, and is now working for this vinyl plant.
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Babyroom and other preps are taking shape, today I bought this item on the dutch eBay. Shannen just LOVES it!
there are way more sets, just imagine the band member Virgin reps, producers, mixers et al. I would think there are at least 25(+) copies of the full set.[/quote:3fkandng]
Maybe, but only 7 or 8 full sets can be compiled from all the current owners, including the owners that have incomplete sets. I even wonder if all bandmembers got a set (Billy most probably yes, but others no). So I’m going with Shawn when he states:So there is some info. I am sure someone else could help you out, but I am pretty certain that no more than 5-10 sets were made. Because the theory was this:
Vinyl made first….CD-Rs made from vinyl to show Virgin Executives to release….Virgin declines….Sets get out.[/quote:3fkandng]
aw yeah! deus!
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Yeah baby yeah! In December I got all the albums and EPs that I was missing for a birthday gift from 2 people… It’s awesome to have their back catalogue almost complete now.Headphones, anyone?
(that’s what I do when my wife wants to see some tv, and me decides to listen to a CD, lots of dEUS lately)
I don’t know. A radio edit normally is a shortened version of the standard album/single release. A 5 or 6 minutes song is cut to a 3 minutes version then. I would not expect anything else, to be honest. Very nice find nevertheless!
They are nice little posters indeed (and Dereks’ subway poster too!) but if it was to me, they had better used this pic for a poster. It is so cool. It was used for the booklet of the deluxe reissue of Siamese Dream instead.
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