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what is there to say?

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haha!

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your english isn’t bad.

for some people, a sticker on a sleeve makes a difference. but it depends.
in this case, the sleeve is not the original sleeve for this single. so it doesn’t matter if it has stickers.

but this is a nice 7\" on its own.
not easy to find. but i think the price has dropped the last couple of years.
good luck with the sale.

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that thing in the middle is not part of the single. you can take it out. it’s a plastic help piece to play jukebox singles on record players that are only made to play records with small holes.

i don’t know what’s up with the sticker. i assume it’s what we can see on the sleeve through the hole of the single. i don’t recognise it.
do you have a picture of the sleeve with the sticker?

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is this a joke?

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please share a picture.
thank you.

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Aydan Sim van Pelt, 3030 grammes, was born today 00:32 local Dutch time after a 51 hr delivery period. He and Shannen are fine! [/quote:35r6mg78]
Congratulations!

I believe he shares his birthday with me. (27th, right?)

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there’s a woman in that tower.

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ah yes, i also hope i’ll end up acquiring this.

but who is entitled to a copy straight from sprc/topspin?
surely some freaks must’ve preordered the reissues? or are we all too smart for that?

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i also wonder what it’s going to be.

who here is getting this flexi?

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how do we know this was released in 2007?[/quote:q5mertnp]
i assume this is the source: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=VJCP-25203

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allmusic.com claims there’s a ’99 release of siamese dream in japan. they don’t mention the ’93 release.
it’s not clear where they get their information, or if it can be trusted. maybe it’s a typo.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/siamese-d … an-r403970

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my assumption that the release date would be somewhere in between the two dates mentioned is false.

this is a 2007 reissue of mcis: http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2303
but it still has the ’95 and ’97 dates from the original release mentioned.
so yes, that siamese dream repressing could be from any year.

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surely those will sell out in no time.
there’s no guarantee you’ll be able to buy one in case you went up there.

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apparently it’s a statue about the donau/danube river. i don’t know if the people in it are greek or roman gods. i’ll give it a google.[/quote:x1texdg7]
i was looking up information about the second picture. you were obviously talking about the first picture.

i have no idea who is in the first picture or what is happening there.

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wow! that’s amazing.

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the gold obelisks from teagarden (only 99 ever made!) are a lot cheaper.

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good point. not everyone is active online. (or wants to be.)

but if this process involves people signing up for a release in advance, then how will those people ever know, and be convinced to sign up?
(i think signing up will be required. i thought that was the whole point. they won’t release something just because 500 people said they were going to buy it at a certain price. that’s what i understood.)

i also think there will never be enough people found to sign up for a release if we only look at active members on messageboards. even if you add facebook it might not be sufficient.
this will need to get properly promoted, so that as many people who might be interested in these releases will hear about it. otherwise this won’t work.
you might try to convince everyone in the online community to work together and chip in for a certain release, but you can’t keep doing that. people aren’t made of money. and not everyone will want to sign up for every release. a big group of potential buyers will be needed in order to keep this going.

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the interview was too long, but it clarified a couple of things.

i think lucky 13 shouldn’t have come forward until after this interview. because now we’ve heard a lot of things from a lot of people that aren’t even applicable. not the best start, in my opinion.

what steps should be taken?
1. something is selected for a release
2. bc agrees to release it and says what costs should be covered
3. a way to release something is suggested (amount of physical releases, amount of digital releases)
4. community signs up for this release
4b. if not enough people sign up, go back to 3. to look for an alternate way to release, or abandon release
5. something is released through sprc

how does 1. work? does everyone just yell things on messageboards?
do i understand it correctly that we’re starting with studio recorded material? or will live recordings also be released straight away?
i think bc or lucky 13 (god, what a stupid name!) should just suggest stuff to start with, and see where it goes. maybe start with a couple of things you know people will definitely like.
of course people can suggest things to lucky 13, but i don’t see how the yelling things on messageboards would help.

on the other hand, selecting releases isn’t really that important: the real selection happens in step 4. so you could select 100 releases and offer them online, and then see which ones get enough people behind them, and release those thigs first.

what happens in 3.? more messageboard yelling?
once again, doesn’t seem very useful to me. you’ll always have the same people asking for vinyl, and the same ones demanding mp3s, etc. what will ever come from that?
this whole \"everybody happy\" idea is very nice, but i don’t think it’s very realistic either. just because you throw it out there and let the community decide, doesn’t mean you’ll end up with a solution.

also, why does bc care so much if someone complains on a messageboard, or says \"billy is only interested in money\". surely he can laugh that off. no? why does he need a bunch of fans defending this?

anyway, finger crossed.
the fact that monty is part of this – and apparently at the centre of this, even – doesn’t give me much hope. i do hope the other members of the sprc team aren’t nearly as stupid and crazy as that guy.

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I know 3 dates for live gigs that are definately worthwhile a release.

24-08-1993 Melody Stockholm Sweden
08-01-1997 GM Place Vancouver Canada
24-01-2000 Vredenburg Utrecht The Netherlands[/quote:pva87iqb]

i hope they release plenty of other live recordings before they ever release these.[/quote:pva87iqb]
Dates, please? What do you suggest, and in what order?[/quote:pva87iqb]
those three shows are good, but the main reason people find them good, is because there’s an FM or TV sourced recording available. the show the day after might have been as good, or maybe even better, but there’s no recording available, or the recording is a fairly crappy audience recording. (so people don’t really enjoy listening it.)

since basically every show since ’95 has been professionally recorded, i think we should go for shows that aren’t out there yet, or not out there yet in good quality. look for similar shows with a good performance and a flawless recording, and release those first.
that’ll be way more interesting than releasing the shows that everyone knows. i mean, i’d also be interested in those, but way less. i’d be paying full price for a small upgrade. nomsayin’?

for example, that raymond revue bar acoustic show billy mentioned: it is out there. and in very good quality. i’m not really waiting for an sprc release of the same show. (i would definitely be if it wasn’t out there yet. or if what’s already out there was flawed.)

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don’t attempt to go through the archives in a chronological order. there is no point. there are only disadvantages.[/quote:2q7pi27b]
Can you be more specific about this, please?[/quote:2q7pi27b]
well, if you decide to go through the archives in a chronological order, it will take a while before you get to adore or machina. this might bore away the people who are also interested in this project, but don’t really care about gish or earlier, for example.

you can’t release everything, so how are you going to decide it’s time to move from gish to siamese dream, for example? when have you released enough? and would that mean that once you reach zeitgeist (or wherever this ends) that the archive project is over?

there is no point in going through it chronologically, besides maybe some weird ocd some might feel the need to satisfy. and that’s a weak argument. actually, it’s completely irrational, so it probably doesn’t count as an argument.

just go through the material "randomly". with this i mean, not necessarily really randomly, like throwing dice, but make sure all eras get attention regularly. don’t ignore any era for too long. for example, don’t do two years of releasing mcis live recordings. release live recordings from every era throughout the year, and then the next year, you can add more, if there’s still interest in more.

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I know 3 dates for live gigs that are definately worthwhile a release.

24-08-1993 Melody Stockholm Sweden
08-01-1997 GM Place Vancouver Canada
24-01-2000 Vredenburg Utrecht The Netherlands[/quote:2yncxi5l]

i hope they release plenty of other live recordings before they ever release these.

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only in german: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albrechtsbrunnen
the guy is the danube river, the woman is the city of vienna. something like that.

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apparently it’s a statue about the donau/danube river. i don’t know if the people in it are greek or roman gods. i’ll give it a google.

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i went away again. i didn’t announce it though. for that i apologise.

this time i was in vienna for a long weekend.
here are two pictures:

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