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manillascissorKeymasterGD! Good list though!

manillascissorKeymaster[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cp3Cs3tDuR8&feature=related[/youtube]
If only this guy were allowed behind the camera.
I actually saw Wesley perform live before he died. It was fawesome.
manillascissorKeymaster[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8[/youtube]
Nice parka, douchehoff!!!!
manillascissorKeymasterCool pic!!!!

manillascissorKeymaster[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv2iLzhS-Sg&feature=related[/youtube]
Ric Tubs!!!! I didn’t even know this guy had a video out. It’s pretty GD awful….
manillascissorKeymasterHere’s one from "Cock And Ball Torture – Aphrodisianus."
My favourite part’s between 45 and 50 seconds, beware the ‘rocking out’ Gramps.
[/quote:3sujsw4g]holy shit, that one is gonna be hard to beat. that is fucking awesome.
manillascissorKeymaster[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB0Le3oM1b8[/youtube]
manillascissorKeymasterright said fred!!!!!!
manillascissorKeymaster[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNRsIFKLDBk&NR=1[/youtube]
manillascissorKeymasterAnother present – video this time!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU[/quote:143tcx7g]
Fuck, I just wanna dance now.
manillascissorKeymasterhere i am
standing under shower
wasting time[/quote:352rvu2w]this made me cry…

manillascissorKeymasterhmmmm…..
*conjures up memory of billy calling pisces iscariot a cashcow record*
c’mon billy. wtf. i know i’m supposed to be excited about this, but i’m not. new material. new material. new material.
fuck the gish tour. fuck this too.
although, ty for posting, blue.
manillascissorKeymastersi, ribbon.

\"everybody knows that you’re insane\"
manillascissorKeymasteras dazey used to say…
tied w/ silver string…
manillascissorKeymasterlol nice present
manillascissorKeymasterty blue
manillascissorKeymasterexcommunicate my soul
for your gleeful acquiesence makes me cry
drape the sorrow over my eyes
a heavy gravity winces into these window portals
so leave the body on the porch
and a time will come
to rid yourself of your enemies
until then
flow through me your spirit of antique stains
manillascissorKeymastertest pressings are sometimes found ages after the release…
it doesn’t mean these were destroyed.
most likely these were not.
how many do you make? less than ten usually.
sent out to band, management, whatever to check.
then what happens? well – any extras might hit the market.
any others might not.
with the Tristessa 7"TP if it wasn’t for Jonathan and Bruce one strange day selling a stock pile of old 7"s to a second hand record store these might have never hit the market….
so – same goes for the I Am One 7" TP (3 copies, 2 with BC, one in a private collection now)…most likely there ARE TPs for these Caroline releases out there still somewhere.
there WERE TPs to start with.
so there MIGHT be some still around, not many, but still.so there you go – you have a debut album, you’re Caroline, moneywise or whatever you have it pressed in Germany, the plant sends out several TPS to check, one is held for reference at the plant and let’s say four are sent out, so well – i’m not surprised these haven’t popped up yet. one at Caroline for reference, one with BC, maybe one at Butch Vig for checking and reference… so two unaccounted for.. or something, it’s not that far fetched i guess…[/quote:xrrwx7z8]
Should be two, one for initial, one for remaster. None yet.
as far as TPs goes I’m rather more surprised if and when these DO pop up.
like this 12" was is rather special in a way, but way way way overpriced in the auction…. still.try to find the plant that did the press and bug them about the possibility of still having a reference copy TP left…
just today I met a guy who has reference copies of all TSP shows he engineered in Holland and Belgium in pre-FM quality which he’s gonna dig up for me as I bugged the hell out of him… So it’s out there somewhere and you can get it… same goes for the ‘Gish/Moon’ tape – research brought it here… I might have expected it to be lost, but it wasn’t.
so same might apply to these Caroline TPs… i.e.: don’t assume these were destroyed (these VERY seldom are!!! there are TPS for The Smiths for example featuring totally different mixes and songs NOT destroyed! just to name one), it will be difficult, but until I stand corrected I say these can and will be found with enough effort and research. it’s just I don’t give and f* about TPs for my collection – otherwise I’d tried my best to find these – then again: collector’s and practical knowledge learns for any release a number of 5 TPs is standard, below has to do with tight budgets, above is normally a case of TPs being used as in-house reference for the bigger labels or passed along as advance non-WhiteLabel promos, as there are also genuine WhiteLabel promos but these have the approved final mix/master/cut.[/quote:xrrwx7z8]
i do happen to give a f*, and am reasoning that these do not exist. until proven differently, as you, i will feel this way.
manillascissorKeymastershit, i missed that!
manillascissorKeymasterDel Shannon – Runaway (fav all time by a mile)
SP – Cherub Rock
QOTSA – Broken Box
Blur – Song 2
Superjoint Ritual – F**k Your Enemy
Nirvana – Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flow Through the Strip
Genesis – Duchess, Entangled
Billy Corgan – Always
Deftones – Engine #9
Counting Crows – Anna Begins, Raining in Baltimore
Radiohead – Stop Whispering, Street Spirit, House of Cards, Let Down
Korn – Good God, Chi
Training for Utopia – Burt Reynolds vs. Godzilla, Police John Police Red
STP – Tripping on a Hole in a Paper Heart
Dire Straits – Sultans of Swing
Daft Punk – Rollin’ and Scratchin’
manillascissorKeymasterWhat is this worth?
I’ve refrained from buying this previously because i was unsure of its value[/quote:1qqlsibs]
You don’t want to pay more than $250 for it. Why? Because you can usually find it for less if you’re a little patient.
manillascissorKeymasterMCIS has a test pressing, although it’s not on spfreaks. I used to own it in college, but sold it. Silly me![/quote:2v5jle3w]
Silly… uhu?
OK, we’ll do with silly in public…
Got pics from that college period (before you went all "silly") to show on SPfreaks.com maybe?[/quote:2v5jle3w]
No pics Arthur. But, all came in white paper sleeves and that’s it. Mine had "Smashing Pumpkins" hand written on the paper.
manillascissorKeymasterWhy did I sell the MCIS? I needed money. That simple. Dumb decision, but desperate times call for desperate measures.
Funny part? Think I only got like $200 for it. lol.
manillascissorKeymasterthere are TEST PRESSINGS for ALL AND ANY vinyl releases…. always…
if these survive is another deal…
however: i’m pretty sure there have to be some copies somewhere for the Gish LP.
since the three I Am One 7" TPs have been accounted for for example…
Anyway – why on earth sell a TP for MCIS 3LP???
[/quote:3giyn53y]I think what I’m getting at is recognizing that Caroline pressed these. Not Virgin or Hut. The intial ones anyway, as confirmed by Cool As Ice Cream, below.
Point being, since this is the only Caroline record by SP ever pressed in DE, maybe there is a reason the test presses didn’t survive. i.e. – intentionally destroyed.
As for the subsequent remastered version, I do find it odd that one of these test pressings has yet to surface, seeing as how it was released in ’94, right around the time all the other accounted for test presses surfaced.
Seems rather strange to me.
manillascissorKeymastercool. thanks, cool.
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