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ok then.
i don’t think a pumpkins 7" will ever reach $5,000 on ebay.
i can’t think of any rarity that would be worth so much, or that is so rare that people would bid $5,000 for it.[/quote:299bu4y6]
rarity wise… maybe mashed potatoes? En Concierto En Mexico? they’re pretty rare…
and i believe Machina 2 was gong for over $1000 dollars when it was on ebay that one time… before it was pulled off. it may have gone for considerably mroe if it had been allowed to continue…ah well, it all comes down to how many people here of the bid, and how many people even know the real rarity of an item…[/quote:299bu4y6]
well, those are not 7" releases.en concierto en mexico is very rare, but i’m sure you could relatively easily find one for less than $1,000.
and machina II reached $10,000, not $1,000. so yes, this is a good example of a pumpkins release that would top that pet shop boys auction.
ok then.
i don’t think a pumpkins 7\" will ever reach $5,000 on ebay.
i can’t think of any rarity that would be worth so much, or that is so rare that people would bid $5,000 for it.in addition to the previous comment: i do think a sd vinyl with a lot of marbling and a lot of different colours looks a lot nicer than a plainer vinyl, so i’d be willing to pay more for it.
i checked 6 siamese dreams tonight: black, peach, 2 different orange ones, red and purple.
they all have identical matrix codes inscripted in the vinyl.
all 4 sides say \"MASTERDISK\". this is not done by hand.the other inscriptions look handwritten. they are:
disc 1, side 1: CAROL-1740-1-A S-27899
disc 1, side 2: CAROL-1740-1-B S-27900
disc 2, side 1: CAROL-1740-1-C S-27901
disc 2, side 2: CAROL-1740-1-D S-27902the CAROL-1740-1-(A-D) is well visible, deeply engraved in the vinyl.
the S-27(899-902) is harder to see, much lighter engraved in the vinyl. you need enough light to read these codes.seeing as i’ve never heard of them before, i’ll say yes
if a band i don’t knwo can do, dammit, pumpkins can![/quote:2tmchdnr]
you might need to open your mind a little. just because you have never heard of them before, doesn’t mean they’re less known than the pumpkins.i’m not sure if it’s interesting to have price estimates for the worst conditions (fair and poor). does anyone care about the value of a wrecked i am one 7\"? and how would one decide how much an almost unplayable i am one 7\" with a ruined sleeve is worth, taking into account that most collectors aren’t really interested in an item like that? doesn’t seem easy to me, but i might be wrong. maybe there’s an easy rule for deciding these prices.
this is just how i see it. if someone thinks it’s useful to have prices for 6 conditions, then let nothing stop you.
i don’t find a siamese dream 2lp with two differently coloured vinyls (e.g. one light orange vinyl and darker orange one) more or less valuable.
yes, thanks.
i will check all my sd vinyls and let you know about the matrix codes. (i think they are all the same, but i’ll check again and confirm.)
did you know, by the way, that one of the 6 sides of the mcis 3lp has a different code on the unnumbered release? the difference is bigger than that too, because one of the two releases uses a lot more vinyl surface (it comes very close to the label in the center) compared to the other.
so basically, you consider one colour \"one pressing\"? and now we are just wondering how many of the variations in colour belong together in one pressing?
i think the following colours are rarer than the others:
– pink (hardest to find)
– red (hard to find)
– purple (rare, but more common than the previous two)
then comes orange and peach.
and more recently they started printing the black ones, so i assume those can be considered least rare at this moment.would it be correct to assume they printed the rare colours first?
and maybe they did 2 or more pressings of peach and orange over the years, resulting in a lot of variation in this colour range?i don’t think d4’s discography had 4 pressings. rather 2, or maybe 3.
the black one has been added after i posted pictures on netphoria earlier this year.
and i think the orange one has been added later too, but i’m not sure.also, why do people call the purple vinyl maroon?
i find it really confusing. (isn’t maroon the colour of the labels?)in this picture, how would you call each of the colours?
whenever they use marbling, no two lp sets will be the same. and i think the \"overall colour\" of the first vinyl will also be different of the last vinyl, because i imagine it’s a bit like paint that gets mixed, becoming more plain. (maybe the first vinyls will look peach, with a lot of marbling, and the last ones will be a bit lighter or darker, with less visible marbling.)
i don’t really know much about pressing vinyls, and i was wondering, what exactly is \"one pressing\"? (aka, what exactly are we discussing here?)
say they made the purple and the red and the peach ones all at the same time, would that be considered one pressing? or three different ones?
or, say they did one batch of purple vinyls (don’t know how many copies they can make in one batch), but ten batches of peach vinyls, because they needed a lot more of these. yet again, all at the same time. does this make 1 purple pressing, and 10 peach pressings (maybe declaring the small differences of colour between some peach vinyls)?what are you saying? you want a \"real one\"? huh?
in case this wasn’t clear, the picture disc is a bootleg too.here are three copies from my collection. i actually have more colours/variations, such as an orange one with more marbling (in a darker color) going on, and the black one i mentioned in the previous post.
the purple one is also my favourite.
there are a lot of colours/variations though. it’s not clear how many times these were pressed and repressed over the years. i made a thread about it some time ago on netphoria, but most pictures are no longer present in that thread, so it’s not worth linking.
in january, i also discovered a black vinyl version (not the hut uk one)! i think this is the most recent reprint of the caroline version.and the pink vinyl (really pink, not purple, not peach) is on its way.
i have seen the gray cover before. it was an official picture, but this doesn’t mean they will actually release it. i mean, i have seen the tarantula single cover in black and white before too (also from official sources), but as far as i know they didn’t sell that one either.
i’d love another zeitgeist with a bonus cd of b-sides and live tracks.
but on the other hand, it would be a bit rude. they already released so many different versions. a lot of people will be angry about it.a better, 2-dvd version is also supposed to exist. but it is not available at this time.
and i believe that, even though it’s better than the 1-dvd version, it still doesn’t look too good.(how could you not know about this??? dude! it’s the psycho tape! did you drop out of pumpkins school?
)when i have some time this week, i’ll see if i have more info on this video tape. i might have some interesting text files somewhere.
heh, you think that looks like a live album?
even if it does, i think you have a lot to learn about mister corgan and his many, many plans.
(remember the metro dvd?)
