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tonight, tonight
it’s just so brilliant, beautiful, and also dark!
it’s also the first contact i had with the smashing pumpkins
i love the style of it too
it’s just so goddam perfect!oh cool.
you do that compo thing – it sounds cool!
mainly because i dont have anything in exchange…
unless you want junk and crap? that isnt pumpkins related at all? i’ve got lots of that!
i believe a statement was made on smashingpumpkins.com
and does that mean you have TWO!c’n i have one?
http://blueroom.att.com/inc_mediaplayer … id=3116&m=
watch this – Billy talks about it
it certainly convinced me – or mebbe im just gullible?
nah, billy’s being honestNew memory… Ive been jamming Doomsday Clock for a couple days in the car, at home, different places. My 15 month old daughter was rocking her head around in the car to it. Yesterday she was in the living room while it was playing, she starts dancing around. So i played some other tunes… no dancing, no grooving. Put Doomsday back on, there she went dancing…SWEET, another generation of SP fan![/quote:1jvuuh04]
haha thats awesome!
apparantly i used tp ‘headbang’ when i was like 2, when my dad put U2 on… i think O_oi knew he wasnt saying the tarantula im aware of…
i thought it was like a dialect thing… like thats how they say it in chicago or something… so i was a little nervous to point it out as being funnyi don’t think Billy’s intentions are for money…
it just doesnt seem… Corgan-esque
musically, zeitgeist doesnt sound commercial, so it’s gonna be hard for them to make it that way… i guess
but MCIS wasnt commercial either…
im not sure, basically :Swow… this topic is really going somewhere, huh?
and toad32r? well done! it’s amazing that one band could help you walk again… something that so many take for granted. it’s amazing how much pumpkins have done for people world over…i don’t have machine yet (
bad fan me!) but i just looked at some images, and it does appear feminine
and i personally think pisces is, as it looks more feminine to me1) I meant emo in a very loose way and only relating to the current crop of emo bands who relate to the Pumpkins. The only one of those I truly like is My Chemical Romance because they don’t care about the so called emo rules and boundaries.
Emo is as untrue a label as Punk and Alernative were, but that’s for a different thread.
2) Re: people latching on to one emotion I saw people on smashing pumpkins.com (where I get beat to a pulp on the message boards daily, btw) complaining that the second song on Letterman (Friday) will be That’s the Way (My Love is) instead of Doomsday Clock.
A) That’s the Way is the next single
B) BC wants to show another side of his writing after playing Tarantula Monday.Look at MCIS as an album and the emotions are all over the place, song to song.
Love is cynical and Cupid de Locke is romantic.
An Ode to No one seems an angry lament to God while Muzzle seems a celebration of a blessed life.And look at the singles. No band since The Beatles has had as much variety in their releases.
Bullet, Zero, 33, Tonight Tonight and 1979.
No other band in the 90’s could have released 2 heavy songs, 1 poppy ballad, 1 lonely ballad and 1 orchestral extravaganza.
Look at The Beatles with Revolution and Hey Jude as double A-sides or the way John would be dark one second (Yer Blues, etc.) and gleeful the next (Dear Prudence, etc.).
They say Kurt Cobain was the Lennon of the 90’s and indeed he lit the fire of rock like only The Beatles and Ramones before him, but it was Billy who was the innovator (The Beatles) and the conscience (Dylan) of the 1990’s. History will prove this once the rest of the music world catches up to him.
Did everyone understand Mozart in his time? Doubt it. And I know for a fact they had no clue what Edgar Allen Poe was achieving. Some people are too far ahead of the curve for the herd mentality.[/quote:16z0zw80]
…stop being so goddam insightful! it’s making me look bad
yeah… im a huge mcr fan. fuck it, im an obsessive – the one band i love more than the pumpkins (judge all the fuck you want – they saved my life
). oh and gerard way kinda looks like Billy Corgan. there are actually quite a few similarities between the two bands… (fuck, NEVER get me started on mcr, i always side track then :S)
and i love the song cupid de locke – and as such i looked into it a bit more (well, i read between the lines) and am i the only one who thinks it seems a lttile bit menacing? it has a few lines which don’t sound that good… like nice not-that-good, not badly written not-that-good (e.g "your world be shattered with nary a note/ of one cupids arrow under your coat" maybe im not understanding it correctly then…)
i get sidetracked to easily…
but excellent point, i must say!http://rspaa.niluje.net/data/
http://www.starla.org/history/spaa2/
http://www.billy-corgan.com/index.php?page=mp3s
those three are very good – the last one is exclusively machina II (well the linked page is) and it’s put in the correct tracklisting too!i think, CaptJack, you hit the nail on the head with that one – made an observation ALL of us can relate to!
excellent job!humm… amybe because it’s lucky…
and that it sounds cool
and it rhymes with heaven!
and devon :S
im not being helpful am i!none on machina…
i think
don’t forget pisces iscariot! the women with the cherry (?) in her mouth…
yeah, good observation, i must say!omg! the number 23! its real, it’s true i… wait, we’re talking about SEVEN ok then…
i duno
maybe BC likes the number?Billy has a very healthy, very powerful range of emotions.
Every has the ability to feel these. but most people don’t, preferring something to take the edge off or numb them, such as drugs, etc.Anger, Doubt, Fear, Regret, Love, Joy, Sadness, Sympathy, Loneliness, Need & Wonder are all in the songs in bucket fulls, in different songs in different ways.
Some fans have focused on only one or two of these emotions and want all of the songs to be about that instead of accepting the full range.
This is why when fans say they hate Adore or especially Machina they disagree on which songs make the album bad.
SP are the first emo band (in a good way I should hope) and they follow in the footsteps of John Lennon and Bob Dylan and Johnny Cash who discussed dark things, wore their heart on their sleeves, didn’t just write to make hit songs, and also declared optimism despite their experiences that should have drummed that out of them.[/quote:cz8fzve7]
emo should be in inverted commas
and the first emo bands were an offshoot of nyc hardcore (namely rites of spring) which began aroung late 80’s, early 90’s… so SP arent really…
sorry i just feel like being pedanticway, way, way before zeitgiest was being written, when billy first mentioned his plans to reform pumpkins, he said (something along the lines of) "i want my band back, i want my songs back"
so it was for pumpkins, not zeitgeist[/quote:wi8qube2]Good use of a reference to back up your stance. Most people don’t do that.
From reviewing the CD liner notes (just today, 7/10/07), it’s clear to me that Smashing Pumpkins from now on is Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlain. They even put in there, BC/JC in the AC/DC font. Ginger and Jeff are not credited w/ writing material. I guess they were hired solely for touring purposes. Which sucks for them, but I guess it’s a great opportunity as well.
However, superlord, there is no indication that Billy hadn’t written some of these songs prior to taking out that ad. There is no way to know, unless we ask Mr. Corgan himself. Chicken or the egg?[/quote:wi8qube2]
haha, we cant know, no. but considering the article in question was well over a year ago, we can take an intelligent guess, no?
