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http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3062 (Ava Adore stickered US promo cd single)
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This doesn’t seem right to me. First, it is a slimline case. I am not aware of a promo from the US in a slimline. Second, the release date is written the way you guys and gals do it across the pond. Day first then month… We Americans do it month then day.

On a completely separate topic, yet related. I wish there was a way to consolidate some of the entries that are separate just because of a sticker. This is frustating to me at times. Just some feedback.[/quote:2akzs0qa]
You’re right, it should be UK. It has been corrected. You know, the Virgin logo made me think it was US, as UK has HUT logos most of the times… But at least somebody is paying attention, thanks EAZYE121!

But what is exactly frustrating? I’m Dutch, you know, I just don’t get the full meaning of what you mean… silly me…

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Billy farts and picks his nose?! [/quote:1381ztkk]
That’s what Sasha told me, yes.

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Dutch newspaper, Haarlems Dagblad 2009/03/23…

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sometimes i wonder if this much personal involvement is unhealthy…[/quote:1mxn55wj]
Want an honest answer? Yes, and no. I think it is better to be a little independant, and have independant thoughts about most things. However, you can never be independant about the things you deeply love and utterly care for. As long as we are not freaking out completely, or stalking the band, or think Billy is god (Really, he isn’t. He picks his nose, he farts too, and like jesus, allah, mohammed and the rest of the godly bunch, he doesn’t know it either.) then I think we have a rather healthy obsession.

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http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3045
(up to 3058 => same, reserved for the grey cds, but no pics/tracklists yet)[/quote:bd7ooyn4]
But now they have!

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take a look arthur[/quote:36k4lv97]
Very helpful, I just posted about my problem there also. Thanks Pipoka!

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Problems with IE? Use Firefox: http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
Portable version, no Installation, and use adblock plus: https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/1865[/quote:1bxs8qlr]
I might try that later, but I’m always on my work laptop, so I cannot do any installations. The whole SP.com website is working fine on Internet Explorer, except for some articles. Hopefully they can fix it over there someday.

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Can somebody please copy that article of Sunky on SP.com, called \"Dawn of a New Era\"?

I’m having errors all the time (and not only on this article! I told PMM a few times already, but they don’t do anything about it, grrrr! )

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Windows Internet Explorer
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Internet Explorer cannot open the Internet site http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/pages/a … wn-new-era.

Operation aborted
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OK
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Where is Jimmy in any of this?… I think he asked for a bigger piece of the pie and now he is gone.[/quote:1ekomchh]
Very interesting point of view. Cold wars like this, without too many details being given to the public, often go about money or girls. Money would be my first option too, as since they are an independant band without a label, they must have been talking about it quite a few times. How to keep the circus rolling? Did Jimmy get his fair share of the sales of G.L.O.W., Feel Our Love and maybe even Today, if at all? Maybe they didn’t agree on the business model for the future, or Jimmy felt unhappy about his contract after they left Reprise Records… who knows. Maybe we will know someday… For the moment I’m still numb about it. I didn’t care about James and D’Arcy so much, to be honest, but my heart goes to Jimmy and Billy. They are a wonderful team, and now that seems to be history too…

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Cool. I just read there that Jimmy had a test blog posted on his JCC website (link doesn’t work anymore, probably deleted also) and Linda Strawberry said something on Twitter about Jimmy wanting to go his own musical way again, with JCC. Makes sense, but is not in line with Jimmy’s previous opinions like \"SP till we die\" and so on. But people can change their minds, no problem. But why not tell something about it in the first official message? I just don’t get it!

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Yeah that works… then they should update the link on top of the page where it says Feature 1, the link on \"Read more\".

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Maybe… it’s unavailable when I click on it, it gives an error…

\"Sorry, the link that brought you to this page seems to be out of date or broken.\"

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Now, even the thread on the SP forum about this news is deleted… hmmm…

http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/board/i … topic=2894

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So this was news that came out on Friday, but happened before Friday [/quote:19w30zjh]
Precisely… A message was already send around in the PMM team before the announcement on Friday. That is standard procedure, as the PMM team has to be prepared for the audience reactions on certain hot news, I can imagine. No issues with that. But I just can’t figure out why NOBODY involved, had the courtesy to make a more proper message about this in the meantime. A real proper message, doing justice to this shocking news. Doing justice to the status of Jimmy. I can, in the end, with some effort, live with the idea that drum beast Jimmy is not in the band anymore, and I can even very easily live with the idea that Billy Corgan keeps the name Smashing Pumpkins and continues working under that name. It is after all the concept that is most succesful for him, both creative and financial. No issues here also.

But no proper goodbye to Jimmy? No mention of a farewell show? No (hint to) reasons why? This is fucking killing me!

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😕 after two days and i still don’t know what to think….[/quote:3117e9k7]
I’m with you…

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For the moment it’s not a joke no, it’s an official announcement from the official website, and tons of other media sources have published it too. They have received a seperate press release with this message, they didn’t have to read it from the website. There is some serious shit going on.

But what sux big times is that whatever circumstances (financial troubles, health troubles, troubles about girls, personal misunderstandings, the urge to go a different musical direction, whatever), 2 good friends that were good friends till recently, they don’t say goodbye to each other like this. Just 1 line like \"we will come back to you about this soon, as we understand this is a surprise to you all\" would have made a difference.

I just had a long conversation about this with our own SPfreaky Sven (who is still working for SP.com, but on the background) and he is, as an SP insider, just as surprised as me. He thinks it is not a joke, Jimmy leaving the band. He, and the rest of PMM, knew about this already a few days before it was published, and all the time he couldn’t figure out what is happening, or what has happened.

So now I tried to step in Billy Corgan’s shoes, and tried to imagine what happened last week. For some reason, Jimmy leaves the band. With a fight, or without a fight. With personal issues in the family, or for other reasons. We don’t know. But even if there was a big fight, there should have been somebody that had the courtesy to say \"It’s a shock, we understand, and we will soon do justice to Jimmy leaving the band. For reasons we can not tell here now, he just had to go. God Speed to our friend Jimmy.\"

Now, what reasons does Billy, or the PMM, have, to publish only this cold message AFTER A FEW DAYS? I mean, even if there was a fight with the biggest emotions, those will be cooled down the next day, and then you write nice(r) words for an old friend. Or have the PMM do that for you… Since Billy had no issues with showing his emotions in ’96 when Jimmy had to leave the band also, I cannot understand what made him so cold now, publishing these few lines only… And together with \"and I’m still Smashing Pumpkins, and I go to the studio again soon\". So? Does that make it business as usual? Should that make us happy and smiling again, because it’s \"only\" Jimmy, the fucking best drummer in the universe and beyond, leaving our favourite band? Guess not, right? All in all, it still makes no sense to me, really… I can only hope the clouds will clear soon…

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i just realized that i can open tp.net’s chat at work [/quote:3lpp4zq3]
And?

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Sorry for my behavior, i just needed it to get it of my chest.[/quote:2pdz5dqf]
Don’t be sorry, I feel the same. It sux, and it makes you sooooo tired reading it…

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And I start believing that it is an early April Fools Day joke, and Jimmy will come back on April, 2nd. The more I think about it, the less sense this all makes. 2 good friends just say goodbye to each other like… this? I’m not buying it (yet).

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Arthur: Of course you can use that picture, but in second thoughts it did look quite bizarre, almost like an obituary notice…? But then again, I hope not. [/quote:b8qbci4s]
Yeah well, it feels like that a bit, and we don’t say "R.I.P." right? I was only thinking that 2007-2009 is not actually right, as Billy and Jimmy claimed that they started working on the material for Zeitgeist in October or November 2005. But a la… it’s OK, it expresses our feelings very well, and I’m proud to show it, as it is our members’ work. See?

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So, what is the latest news?

I just read on SP.com that article \"Kerry Brown speaks at USC\" and someone commented \"ummm why would we even care about this? JIMMY CHAMBERLIN JUST LEFT THE FUCKING BAND.\"

That person is sooooo right!

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I used that pic for a little homepage news, hope you don’t mind? Check it out on http://www.spfreaks.com

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Lazy? while I blasted over 1,000 official cds? OK here is some bonus material!

updated with info and pics:

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=2192 (The Cornerstone Player 008 US promo cd with Jackie Blue)

new items:

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3059 (Autographed poster)

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3060 (Batman & Robin promo cd Germany)

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3061 (James Iha stickered UK promo cd single)

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3062 (Ava Adore stickered US promo cd single)

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3063 (Kiss radio cd with Today live 1998/10/31 )

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3064 (Mainstream Radio March 2000 Issue II UK promo compilation cd with Stand Inside Your Love)

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3065 (The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Remixes By Rabbit In The Moon & Hallucination) US CDR promo with (ex-vinyl only) The End Is The Beginning Is The End (Hallucination’s Nu-Wave Batcave Mix))

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3066 (TM Century GoldDisc 4401 US promo with Landslide)

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=3067 (Westwood One Show #09-07 US radio cd)

1,048 official cds now!

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Jimmy might leave Pumpkins universe, but I don’t. Major update announcement for today!

Items updated with new/more pics:

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=2496 (Lollapalooza 1994 Tour Book)

http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=2670 (Rolling Stone magazine Germany)

New items, starting with 5 magazines (full articles):

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2996 up to 3000

6 Tour Books (oldies!):

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3001 up to 3006

1 book:

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3007

5 boots:

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3008 up to 3012

46 official CDs:

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3013 (Tricky UK CD single with sample from Suffer)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3014 (Greatest Hits 1 CD Taiwan)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3015 (Stand Inside Your Love Belgium promo)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3016 (That’s The Way (My Love Is) Danish promo)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3017 (Greatest Hits 1 CD promo France)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3018 (American Gothic EP promo Israel)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3019 (Judas 0 CDR promo UK)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3020 (Billy Corgan solo album promo US)

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3021
(up to 3044 => 20th Anniversary Tour cds (yellow/blue))

http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=3045
(up to 3058 => same, reserved for the grey cds, but no pics/tracklists yet)

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damn you! i’m at work [/quote:2319t6g7]
Then get back to work, instead of browsing everywhere on Pumpkins forums!

On a more serious note, I think Dazey might be right. It might have something to do with health issues…

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