ladyn

[ladyn]

billy’s a slut…this shit reminds me of Tiger Woods territory. I fell sorry for Yelena, especially that they were dating at this time. Good thing she moved on and is happy with her own family. It’s probably a good thing that billy isn’t \"settled\" down with someone, because he’s a revolving door for women.

[ladyn]

I think the two are friends. It looks like JS is a friend of Kerry’s, by the looks of the messages they send each other on twitter. So it’s highly likely that billy would have interaction with Jessica. I’ve read on other boards that billy was in NY for his upcoming book and to do press for Teargarden and Jess was there for seeing her sister in ‘chicago’. They probably hung out that night. If they are dating, I have no idea, but I doubt they are. I don’t mind Jessica, I think she seems like a nice girl… I wouldn’t doubt that there is a possiblity Jessica might have a crush on Billy. I just think Billy might be into another/other girl(s) by the looks of twitter accounts. These gossip sites keep saying close sources are mentioning they are dating, but who are these close sources??? Made up? Nothing really adds up to them dating…but if they are then more power to ’em. Just my two cents…case closed.

[ladyn]

correction: you are like "HUH???"

i’m more like "ok…"[/quote:21v24od8]

okay fair enough

I stand corrected

[ladyn]

ohhhhh…this is fun!

Who is your favorite member of The Smashing Pumpkins?: Billy Corganm duh, but Jimmy is awesome too!

What is your favorite lineup of the band? I’m old school, the original line up, but I don’t mind ginger, jeff, and lisa..

What is your all time favorite album?: MCIS, was the album that turned me into a pumpkin head

What is your all time favorite song?: SIYL, mayonaise, soma

What is your all time favorite video?: way too many, they made so many good ones, hmmm.. SIYL, rocket, today, tonight tonight, 1979, 33

What is your favorite song from the album ‘Gish’?: tristessa, siva

What is your favorite song from the album ‘Siamese Dream’?: soma, mayonaise, geek usa, silverfuck

What is your favorite song from the album ‘Pisces Iscariot’?: Starla , hello kitty kat, frailed and bedazzled

What is your favorite song from ‘Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness’?: Thru the Eyes of Ruby, BWBW, love, xyu

What is your favorite song from ‘Adore’?: pug, tear, daphine, ava adore, to sheila, blank page

What is your favorite song from ‘Machina: The Machines of God’?: I of The Mourning, SIYL, ELG,

Machina 2? In my body, vanity, soul power, white spyder, home, innosence

Favorite Zeitgeist song? bleeding the orcid, 7 shades of black, bring the light, starz

What is your favorite b-side/rarity?: Ugly or Never Let Me Down cover(totally agree with these) and glynis

What is your most prized Pumpkins possession? just the music

Have you ever seen the Smashing Pumpkins in concert..? two times, adore and machina era..

Have you ever seen Billy Corgan solo in concert?: yes in chicago, also saw his very first solo show in 2004 at the metro when he sang his chicago songs.

Have you ever met any members of the band? I’ve never met billy \"officially\" but been around him backstage, video shoot, hideout, concerts etc., I did kinda met Jimmy after a zwan show once..

How many Smashing Pumpkins CDs do you own?: all the albums, some rarieties, demos, live shows, bootlegs,

How many Smashing Pumpkins boxed sets do you own?: just TAFH

How many Smashing Pumpkins t-shirts do you own?: 2 adore and machina concert tshirts, I use to have a siamese dream shirt with the two girls on it, but my mom threw it away back in high school days

How many Smashing Pumpkins posters do you own?: 2, I’ve got the tonight tonight one and an adore one

How many Smashing Pumpkins dvds do you own?: greatest hit videos, inside zeitgeist, viewphoria, is there supposed to be more than that??

Have you ever named a pet after a member of the band?: no

Have you ever named a pet after one of their songs?: no

Have you ever named your child after a member of the band? no, no kids.

Have you ever named your child after one of their songs?: No,

Do you have any Smashing Pumpkins related tattoos?: No, but always wanted the original sp heart logo

Do you own Billy Corgan’s solo album?: Yes

Do you own James Iha’s solo album?: no)

Do you own Melissa Auf Der Maur’s solo album: no.

Do you own ‘Mary, Star of the Sea’, by Zwan?: yes

Have you ever seen Zwan in concert?: yes, many times, much more than I did the pumpkins, yikes!! maybe like 7 times, plus hideout shows..

Have you read ‘Blinking With Fists’, by Billy Corgan?: no unfortunately I never bought the book, but I have heard a lot of his poems, I acutally went to his VERY first poetry reading in the art museum in Chicago maybe in 2003ish or was it 2004?? can’t remember

Do you own ‘Life Begins Again’, by the Jimmy Chamberlin Complex?: No

Do you like A Perfect Circle just because James Iha is now in the band?: No, never really was into them anyways..

Have you seen the Zeitgeist tour? How many times? NO!! they haven’t come to my state! boohoo, maybe I’ll catch a chicago show, if they play there.

[ladyn]

how did you find that one? Is that pic recent?

[ladyn]

I really do hope that billy finds a great girl. I don’t think this V thing is a case of a bunch of \"fangirls\" being jealous, but just that the whole situation is creepy and she’s a little unstable. poor billy

[ladyn]

he could be lying

billy could be lying, preferring to keep it on the quiet/unconfirmed side.

i doubt it though. i really, really doubt it

so yeah, case closed [/quote:1c2cvz9s]

well, if he wanted it to be quiet than why is he letting her make a ton of websites about their marriage, posting details of the relationship on her so called wedding journal?? I agree with you, I highly doubt he’s lying..

[ladyn]

That’s what I thought as she talks about having Thanksgiving w/ Jimmy and his wife. I wonder what they all saw in her to begin with? If she is as wrapped up with herself as she is now, I can’t see them thinking much of her. She truly seems to suffer from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

For the record– FYSCHE (VERONICA GREY) DID NOT DATE JIMMY CHAMBERLIN!!

Just in case we have people who skim posts.

Thanks again, Ladyn. I’m intrigued how well you know them but respect your privacy. Thanks for sharing what you do. . it is really cool to have you here.
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I really don’t know much, I use to know a little since I use to be friends with people who knew the band, I really had no ins with the band personally. This was all back in the zwan days. I knew the gossip about zwan, but it’s been three years and I really don’t know anything now, I’ve lost touch with a couple of people, one of them who is good friends with strawberry.

When I knew fysche, she was a really sweet person, so I could see why band members were interested in her and became friends with her. She was a tad \"off\" too, did weird things. She is smart too, you can hold an intellegent conversation with her, but I did spend time with her at concerts and even outside of zwan/sp. I haven’t talked to her in a long time (about 3-4 years), I really wasn’t best friends with her, so I didn’t know her too well. Even if I did keep some sort of friendship with her to this day, she probably would feed me this same wedding story as she is doing with everybody else.

and I do remember that thanksgiving dinner she had with jimmy back in 2001 when zwan was playiing in los angeles, that was before I knew her personally.

[ladyn]

Why does it not surprise me that she lies about her age, as well as everything else. My friend at the Asheville shows did see her and saw her leave with the band so it was a bit strange trying to understand that one.[/quote:athun8hj]

Fysche had/has ins with the band, not only was she chummy with Billy in the past, but she was with Jimmy too. By chummy I don’t mean sex, but hung out, etc. LOL.. Anyways, it doesn’t surprise me that she was at the asheville shows, she gets in backstage a lot and knows a lot of people. I believe her marriage shit started after the asheville shows, otherwise she wouldn’t be in such close promiximity to the band during those shows. And this telepathic bullshit didn’t happen yesterday, she had the same stories during the zwan era and thought that some of the djali songs were written for her, etc.[/quote:athun8hj]

When you say "with" Jimmy, do you mean like a girlfriend of the past? I wondered how she could claim she was in her 20’s yet has all this past w/ them.

Once again, thank you for the info. .[/quote:athun8hj]

NO NO NO!!! gosh I don’t want to start rumors, fysche was NEVER a girlfriend to either billy or jimmy.
what I meant was that she was chummy (friends) with Jimmy too.

[ladyn]

40 is nothing.. 30 is the new 20, 40 is the new 30, 50 is the new 40…. he looks damn good for his age anyways, staying out of the sun like he does is gonna help him in the long run, less wrinkles.

[ladyn]

Why does it not surprise me that she lies about her age, as well as everything else. My friend at the Asheville shows did see her and saw her leave with the band so it was a bit strange trying to understand that one.[/quote:29198vsa]

Fysche had/has ins with the band, not only was she chummy with Billy in the past, but she was with Jimmy too. By chummy I don’t mean sex, but hung out, etc. LOL.. Anyways, it doesn’t surprise me that she was at the asheville shows, she gets in backstage a lot and knows a lot of people. I believe her marriage shit started after the asheville shows, otherwise she wouldn’t be in such close promiximity to the band during those shows. And this telepathic bullshit didn’t happen yesterday, she had the same stories during the zwan era and thought that some of the djali songs were written for her, etc.

[ladyn]

Hey it’s okay luxe…I think it’s sad because people out there who really don’t know a good history of the pumpkins or billy, and don’t know this fyshe gal, believe this crazy rumor. Like people posting congrats and stuff on myspace, when they have no clue.

Anyways, I don’t know anything 100% because I don’t have ins anymore with people who are close to the band. But, I read somewhere that Billy stated at the Cleveland or was it Cincinatti (??) concert that he \"didn’t have a wife, and was looking for a fine Ohio woman\"…. and numerous times at other concerts he states he’s single.

btw, Fysche is in her early 30s..

[ladyn]

double post

[ladyn]

okay this thing needs to stop…

she shouldn’t even be talked about anymore, because we are just feeding the beast even more..

We all know she ain’t married to him…first of all there aren’t any pix of them together, I mean she does make 1,000 webpages devoting their marriage i.e. youtube, myspace, imdb, AND NO pictures?!??!

billy has stated numerous times at concerts that he’s single, and even stated in clear that he doesn’t have a wife, he’s looking for a \"fine woman\".. yadda yadda

With this new myspace page she doesn’t billy as friend or any other of billy’s personal friends, which shows something…

Do you really think billy would marry someone who states such personal detail about their relationship on the internet, when billy is very private about his love life? This shows how all these webpages she makes, feeds into her fantasy and adds to her story.. Lemme see, how many websites did Yelena make when they were together?? hmmmmm..

isn’t this proof enough?? she even makes excuses for her story to make sense, like happily married men don’t have to wear a wedding ring…to make reality fit to her story (billy aint wearing a ring)

and WTF is her obession with David Cronenberg?? He’d better watch out as well.

I shouldn’t even have said even that much…because it’s just more attention… this really should be the end of this topic…

[ladyn]

yes, very cool, I loved that verison of HMM!

[ladyn]

edit

[ladyn]

I love these:

[ladyn]

Thanks for the info, ladyn.

I smell bullshit because Fysche seems to have several different versions of her stories, none of which add up. Interesting that she and a friend created the wedding journal, if I read your last post correctly.

I suspect that Billy is staying quiet because he doesn’t want to play into her game. Sometimes not giving someone the attention they demand is a good way to prevent things from getting out of control. Of course, I’m only speculating. It’s scary that she’s been following him since the Zwan days without any action being taken against her by Billy or band management. I wonder if they think of her as that "crazy but harmless woman that’s in love with Billy"?[/quote:1rl2rr04]

there are other crazy fans too out there that they don’t do much with either…so I don’t know, it would be very smart to keep her a far distance from the band, although she was at a lot of the asheville shows, but that was before the whole marriage rumors started… and the whole wedding journal is that I think VG wrote it and had help from her internet friend put it up or maybe type it up on the net for her. She gives thanks to this woman for her help.

[ladyn]

who knows, IF they aren’t married, maybe they are keeping their mouths shut about it because if they ever denounced it on the internet/media, it would make fysche possibly more unstable, so they could be doing it for safety reasons or they don’t want to give her even more attention… But there’s always a slight possiblity that they are married, Billy has been known to do strange things, and can be a little odd from time to time… Then I would feel like a total ass for stating bad things about her, since I use to know her and all.. and I’m not the only one on former sp boards that knew her back then and they aren’t saying anything either, they could have lost touch with her too, or think she’s nuts and dismisses it. She met a lot of other smashing pumpkins fans on the net and personally knew them too, hung out at concerts, etc. That’s what makes this even more creepier, that’s why I feel a little preturbed about it. One of her old z-board friends actually helped her make that freaky wedding journal… She has ins with the band too, that’s why it’s makes it so strange. You don’t know what to believe anymore.

[ladyn]

thanks for your welcome

I know it’s his private life and not any of our business, but I really would like to know because the whole thing is really creepy and I would like to know if he’s safe, if it ends up he’s not married to her. i wish we could get a straight up answer.

Things don’t match up though…
first she posts that during the ceremony it was just her, him and the holy person
than later, she states that David Cronenberg (some director) was present…

Also, she had some weird post on her myspace stating they had their first kiss 38 days after they got married, which makes no sense.

(i read these things on netphoria)

she states she got married at the birth time of her \"friend\" steven spielberg….

Just a lot of strange stories…that make the whole thing not sound credible, I know she was weird before, and that was okay by me, but now it seems she’s having illusions of graduiour (sp?), stating weird specifics of other famous people..

[ladyn]

Hello,

I’m new to this board…somehow this is the only sane and mature thread on this topic around on sp forums… So I just need to chime in my two cents on this thing because I’m dying to say something about it.

I use to know Fysche many years ago (zwan era) and to me she was a nice girl and very kind, crazy and odd, yes, but that’s who she is/was. I saw her at concerts, the hideout, and hung out with some close friends of hers at the time. I haven’t spoken or seen her in 3-4 years and lost touch with her close friends at that time. I never saw her having a close encounter with billy during these concerts, either we couldn’t get backstage afterwards, or the other times I was backstage, she wasn’t at that particular concert. But Billy and her definetely knew each other personally at least during the zwan times. There was that infamous time she had breakfast with him in Chicago after a zwan show back in 2002 and I believe she had breakfast with him again a week or two later after that. Now I have no proof if this actually happened, but she did post all the details on the o-board and z-board. She use to post AIM conversations with her friends about these encounters with him… Her close friends, who I was also friends with had no doubt she was lying about these breakfasts with him…

The first time I met her was at the hideout. The hideout was a small room, so it was cramped and Billy definetely saw her there. Afterwards because everyone and the bandmembers would hang around on stage and stuff, Billy never really approached her or anything (this was weeks/months after eating breakfasts together), and she never did to him. The next day we went to the same restaurant where they (B.C. and V) always met up and she left him a note written all weird like that freaky wedding journal that she left with one of the waiters there to give him.

If I get in trouble for writing all this shit I really don’t give a crap. I don’t associate with Fysche anymore or any of her friends. After all these marriage rumors, I just thought back to when I used to know her. and kept on questioning if she made up all these encounters she had with him. Because this whole marriage thing and the wedding journal, along with all the stories are too far fetched. After seeing that billy didn’t approach her after the hideout, I thought he was pissed because she got all detailed and posted too much about her breakfast with him. But, now things look a little different, who knows. Also back then Fysche was in Strawberry’s camp, so she seemed legit.

Right now I have no association with anybody, I could bluntly ask someone who would 100% know, but I would feel uncomfortable doing it and really it isn’t any of my business. I don’t talk to this person anymore anyways. I think we all know that he isn’t married to her. After looking at those \"stalkerish\" wedding journal notes, I definetely think she’s not \"fun-crazy\", but just plain \"crazy\"… Maybe I’ll be bit in the ass for what I said, and they are really crazily-married together, but I doubt it. I know that some people have emailed strawberry, gouch, and other sp related people and no one has gotten a yes or no answer. To me that could indicate it’s too serious to talk about it because of legal reasons, or that Billy wants the marriage hush BUT then why is VG screaming all over the internet about it. When I first heard the \"news\" I thought it could be true, because I use to personally know her, but then I saw more of the whole situation, and I realized that you can never really \"know\" anyone. Who is she really? Sorry for the long winded post…

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