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i would like to call arthur to this thread. he convinced me absolute truth doesn’t exist.[/quote:3uo6a6u5]
Did I? Wow.
But yeah, I’m a firm believer that truth, in an absolute way, doesn’t exist. Never. And that’s why life is easy, if one can accept that.
Derek and me came to this subject when we discussed the rules that people make up, to make life easy and understandable. But rules change. Earth was supposed to be flat several hundred years ago, and ships would drop from earth when they sailed too far. Now we know better.
For example, we all want to know "what is the purpose of my life? Why is my very existance needed?". Just declare "there is no point in life", and even if I would have the size, the knowledge, the feelings, the silence and the noise of the universe, I cannot see, feel or know the point of it all. And it’s OK, I can accept that. Like a stone, a tree, a pig, and a drip of water has to accept it also, and doesn’t question it (as far as we know, this is no absolute truth either). And with that said, I move on and I do what I think is wise and good.
And this type of thinking can be implemented on everything. At least that is what I think, unless someone here can come up with something that is absolute truth. Or can give a real hint to the point of it all. Good luck!
As promised, Q65. When this was released in NL, I was still kicking around in my mums belly lol
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M537IGwfwP4[/youtube]
And, this is in my top 10 too. Goosebumps!
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvFpBOe8eY[/youtube]
I was around 10 years old when I heard this song for the first time, it was during a school trip to a little island in the north of The Netherlands. My mouth dropped on the floor. Through this song I got addicted to rock/guitar music.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-K038-0tF8[/youtube]
And this. More goosebumps! 1 of the best guitar solos I know. Ritchie Blackmore is 1 of my heroes.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6IPBN6ARkE[/youtube]
Both awesome versions too of this classic song! Frijid Pink is my favourite though, but that’s just my taste…
On YouTube you can also find an ever older performance from the 1940’s, by bluesman Leadbelly.Anyway, on the same level I put Q65 – This is the life I live. Dutch garage band from the 1960’s. I’ll try to find it on YouTube later, I’m on my mobile now.
I always come back to this song, when it comes to all time favourites. I have several more (Soma for example), but this is one of the oldest memories of a song I truly love I have.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t40INnb6DnY[/youtube]
Funny that Nugent pops up again. We talked about him a few times before, and I used to be a big fan in the old days. Not fond of the guy anymore, but his music still ROCKS.
i find this taxonomy too detailed and subjective. i think these releases need to be filed under CDs (Official) or CDs (Unofficial).[/quote:2gtnleu9]
i don’t necessarily want a separate category for cd-rs. but i think it’s important information that should be included, one way or another. (maybe by adding an extra field "cd-r" to all CD entries, for example.)previously, if it said "acetate", then you knew it was a cd-r. at least, that’s how i perceived it.
now that the release types have changed, this no longer works.[/quote:2gtnleu9]
Yeah, that’s it. I can go with manilla, after all I’m not that happy with the extra category also. The "type of release" should reflect the intended usage of the release, and then a split up of "Promo (Media)" and "Promo (Public)" really makes sense. It are very different groups of people that will receive/have received the promotional release.Hmmm… I have to figure this out one way or the other. Maybe the Format field is a better option to work this out…
looks like those are indeed all cd-rs. but not all cd-rs are there.
just some machina examples:
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1094
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2068
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1791
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1088[/quote:qaefomim]
Yeah… I know. This is what I said about it earlier on.In fact I have hard times differentiating CDs and CD-Rs (official) starting in 1997 (TEITBITE) and onwards, like with all the Adore and Machina cds. As a rough indication I thought that handwritten cds are CD-Rs, and when a proper Hut or Virgin logo + text was printed on the cd, then it is CD. Which is not really a good indication, because some, if not most, of them are clearly CD-Rs. But well, it’s a start. Let me know your comments, please![/quote:qaefomim]
Was this CD a public promo? If I remember well, it was given away at some stores with Machina?
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=349 (7 track sampler)
OK, I think most CD-Rs are in this new section. Someone willing to check it, and see if I made mistakes?
And this one?
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=184 (1 of the many Machina CD-R promos)
Promo (Inhouse) or not? I put it to Promo (Media) for a start.
In fact I have hard times differentiating CDs and CD-Rs (official) starting in 1997 (TEITBITE) and onwards, like with all the Adore and Machina cds. As a rough indication I thought that handwritten cds are CD-Rs, and when a proper Hut or Virgin logo + text was printed on the cd, then it is CD. Which is not really a good indication, because some, if not most, of them are clearly CD-Rs. But well, it’s a start. Let me know your comments, please!
And this one… bleh. I kept it in CDs first, but it is clearly a CD-R.
Several efforts later, almost as many questions…
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=2628 (a Rocket CD-R pressing)
Changed it to category \"CD-Rs (Official)\", and adjusted type of release to \"Promo (Inhouse)\". Everybody agrees on this? Or should I interpret the logos of Chop Em Out and Ferret & Spanner differently (like it is a Test Pressing)?
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=795 (MCIS CD-R set, previously owned by BC)
Changed it to category \"CD-Rs (Official)\", and adjusted type of release to \"Test Pressing\". Agree?
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=234 (Adore CD-R from Germany)
CD-R (maybe unofficial), but Test Pressing or Promo (Inhouse)?
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … S&item=289 (MCIS promo set on gold CD-R)
Promo (Inhouse) or Promo (Media)? Set to Inhouse for a start.
http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1093 (Virgin Records Sampler)
CD or CD-R? Set to CD for a start.
Man, this is harder (and more fun too
) than I thought! i’d find it interesting if there was a way to indicate the difference between a cd and a cd-r.
this has got nothing to do with "type of release", i know. but i find it important information, and there doesn’t really seem to be a separate category for both. they’re all "cds (official)".[/quote:32uhgsoi]
This is actually a really good one! It’s very easy to set up extra categories like CD-Rs (Official) and CD-Rs (Unofficial), and then separate the current entries between the CD and CD-R categories (OK, this last part takes a little effort). But I will try to set that up now also. At your service.
Summary. I will try to set this up in a bit, and change the cd section accordingly.
1. studio master (used for vinyl & cd production)
2. glass master (cd only: BBC Transcription discs)
3. acetate (vinyl only)
4. test pressing (both vinyl and cd: Masterdisk & Town House stuff for example)
5. inhouse promo (no idea about vinyl, but to be used for many Virgin/Hut cdrs at least)
6. media promo (WLP, watermarked cds etc)
7. public promo (like Live In Chicago, Still Becoming Apart, etc.)
8. commercial (jukebox)
9. commercial (limited/numbered edition)
10. commercial (standard edition)M2 US -> technically it’s not a test press but an inhouse cdr. it was in fact not made to test anything, just for inhouse use.
M2 UK -> i don’t think that many media got a full set though…
CR MG -> Town House one off cdr for one DJ only, well technically a media promo cdr
BBC -> yep
Inhouse cdrs -> not at all all are as for testing something…
CDRS -> seems right[/quote:1qbdsg44]
Yeah, fair enough. It bothered me also that I could not distinct test pressings from other inhouse cdrs anymore. Should we call, as a rough guideline, the Hut/Virgin cdrs inhouse promos (when it is clear that they were created for inhouse usage, of course), and the Masterdisk and Town House cdrs can be considered as test pressings?
