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To be honest, I didn’t even know it existed… [/quote:vybykkfi]
Shame on you, Arthur!
Ha, and it’s not listed in the collection. But i also forget to submit some photos from the vinyls.
@pipoka & mayo:
Article from Sunky @ smashingpumpkins.com
http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/pages/a … xt-chapter2009: The Next Chapter
January 5, 2009 | 935 Views
Before we turn that page to begin a new chapter of the Smashing Pumpkins story, I just want to wish everybody a ‘Happy New Year’ from the team here at SP.com. Its going to be an interesting year for us in Pumpkinland and after an eventful 2008, 2009 has a hard act to follow.As covered in the articles posted during the final weeks of 2008 we were all reminded of just what a huge year last year was for the Smashing Pumpkins. This time last year we were all most likely thinking the same thing about 2008, how could it end up being more eventful than 2007?
2007 had everything we could ever want from the Pumpkins, or so we thought. There was the return, the album, the videos, the website and the world tours. To look back at January 2008 now all we had was American Gothic hitting the digital shelves of the iTunes music store, which would be followed up by a small tour to Europe, New Zealand, Australia and South America. I know some of us thought that would be it for the band. After touring for most of 2007 I was certain they’d take the rest of the year off because isn’t that what most bands do?
Soon we all discovered this isn’t what the Smashing Pumpkins had planned. From the various media interviews and fan conversations we were able to piece together a path the Pumpkins would follow for the next 12 months.
What originally seemed to be a quiet year, ended up being a truly eventful and memorable one. Before halfway through the year we had a general outline of what the rest of the year would hold. There would be a small US summer tour in August, a new song to be written, recorded and released, ‘If All Goes Wrong’ would see the light of day and finally the band would finish up with a 20th Anniversary tour, celebrating the 20 years of sadness.
It was this farewell message from Billy at the last show on the 20th Anniversary tour, at the Auditorium Theatre in Chicago, that really drove home the idea that this is really the end of a Smashing Pumpkins era; the end of the era we have known for the past two years, the definitive end of Zeitgeist.
\"This is the end of the entire Zeitgeist time period for me and Jimmy that began way
back in November 05. So this is a long journey for us.\"Just like any era of the Smashing Pumpkins, Zeitgeist is no doubt a mixed bag of views. In many places we’ve all talked and written about what this era has meant to us. To some it brought ‘our’ band back into our lives, to others it brought back a band we have out grown and to some they are questioning if they want to continue on this journey or not. Whatever section you might fall into you must give the credit to the Pumpkins. They returned with a plan and they’ve stuck to their guns to make sure that at the end of the day they are doing what they originally set out to do.
There was never a time where they caved to the public pressure to be ‘that’ reunion band that lived in the past and just played those hits. It would be during the final months of the Zeitgeist era where the band found themselves still answering the same questions, even after being a band again for over 18 months. So the record had to be set straight, on radio and at shows it was made loud and clear.
Jimmy Chamberlin: \"We are trying to represent what the band stands for and I think as we kind of challenge ourselves, we gotta challenge our audience too. We are all in this together, we move ahead together or we move backwards together. We are not really interested in moving backwards, we are more interested in pushing the envelope forward, seeing what sticks and seeing who comes with us.\" *
Billy Corgan: \"We never came back to do the reunion thing, this is not the reunion tour. We never said that, we never meant that. That just comes from outside.\" *
The reunion label has hopefully been laid to rest. The mainstream media is hopefully going to stop with that instant label when reviewing a concert or release from the band. We must all accept that is where we are now at the starting point of the next era of the Smashing Pumpkins story. It is easy to forget that this feeling of seeing a new era of the band unfold isn’t something that we’ve become accustomed.
The last few eras we experienced as fans have all ended without a follow up. Machina for the Smashing Pumpkins was not only the end of the era but also the end of the band as we knew it. In 2000 there was no encore and no next chapter for the Pumpkins. Even the post-Pumpkin projects of Zwan, TheFutureEmbrace and the Jimmy Chamberlin Complex have all ended without any second chapter. For the past 8 years we have experienced this recurring cycle. We fall in love with a new projects direction, sound and energy only to start all over again with something else. So no wonder we are sometimes confused as a fan base when we are not used to this stability in which we currently find ourselves surrounded. It is a foreign concept that we haven’t really experienced for a long time, but once you realise that there isn’t going to be an ending any time soon you can begin to let go of the past a lot easier than before.
So in the certainty that the future is definitely bright for the Smashing Pumpkins, it works well for both the band and the fans. From the interviews at the end of last year with Billy and Jimmy it’s pretty clear that they are in a good place with the Pumpkins, knowing that the next chapter is beginning and we know what we can possibly expect.
Matt Pinfield: \"After you do these anniversary shows, what are you guys planning on doing? Are going to actually sit down and make another record? Is there a bunch of stuff already written Billy?\" **
Billy Corgan: \"We are building a new studio now, and we are trying to figure out a way to release music in a new way and I just don’t mean on the internet. Like maybe there is a different way to release music, in terms of the pattern in which you release it and be more multimedia in how you release. So maybe an album will come out over time and it will come out in pieces, and them at some point assemble them and put that out in a different configuration. Not to ask a fan to put all their marbles in one place, and then love it or hate it and go away. I think that model is dead … there has to be a combination that gets people motivated, keeps us excited and moving forward. There must be new ways we can create new things that way.\" **
\"We were talking the other day, and this is a live thing, we were talking about going into a town and doing a four day event. The first night would be a dinner and a Q&A, the next we would play in essence a conventional concert, then maybe the third day it would be more like a ‘Storytellers’ type of thing and the fourth day we would play another concert. So a fan could buy a 4 day experience with us, a very intense experience with us … and then if you’re just a fan that wants to go one show then you can just buy the one show ticket.\" **
It is with brave new ideas like these that confirms the next chapter of the Smashing Pumpkins will be a prosperous era. There are no set ‘deadlines’ or ‘expectations’ for this year, we’ll just see where it takes us. We’ve been told we’ll get new music, but it is more about ‘how’ will we receive this new music. That is where the excitement lies for us all, to see how it unfolds and in turn to see how it is received. With a line up of musicians that have formed a strong musical kinship over the past two years combined with the freedom of being away from a major record label, 2009 will hopefully be both a prosperous and pivotal year in the story of the Smashing Pumpkins.
Until the plans start to develop and unfold we may have some quiet times ahead but remember – good things come to those who wait. This quiet time does not mean that the SP community and SP.com will be quiet though. The PMM writers will be here as usual to keep you entertained with discussion of topics from the past, present and future. Your personal blogs and discussion around the site will provide assistance to us all. However, even more exciting is that during this time some of those ‘coming soon’ features on the home page will be happening soon enough.
So catch your breath, reflect on the end of the Zeitgeist era, enjoy the down time and rest in anticipation for what is to happen in 2009.
Sunky
Quotes taken from:
* – Elliot in the Morning from DC101
** – Matt Pinfield from 101.9 RXP[/quote:29xrti1t]
Some more new items:
http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=COLLDETAILS&item=2788 (BC TheFutureEmbrace US promo)
Extra information: 5 track (or 4 track?) promo, aka TheFutureEmbrace EP.
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My FutureEmbrace EP contains four songs:
– Mina Loy (M.O.H.)
– A100
– Walking Shade
– Now (And Then)Matrix Number: WB-BILLYCORGAN-REP 2091240077
(i’ll send you scans from the cd / back-insert)
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Also i bought one of those Machina Promo Lithograph, the one with the eagel on ELI.com.
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hehe 
mr.benway, I just get an error:
"Your search – <link you emailed> – did not match any documents."[/quote:2hzuali9]
Hi Arthur, i’ve tried the link right now and it works fine for me. Hmm. The link is like the others, only with
"update8.rar" as filename. Send you an message with the link.Machina Promo Lithograph No.4/4 (Vasily Kafanov) arrived today
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Amazing stuff indeed. If I had the money I would (try to) collect them also. But why did they only 4 of the whole set as proper lithos? I mean, these are all the lithos available:http://www.spfreaks.com/default.aspx?pa … &item=1650[/quote:36r6tvo3]
What dou you mean with "But why did they only 4 of the whole set as proper lithos?"?
There are two series of lithographs:
– The first series is the Machina Artworkas seen .
The prints are limited (100), numbered + signed and it looks that they used handmade paper for it.– The second series are the 4 promotional prints, unnumbered / unsigned. They are printed on thicker paper / cardboard. And they’ve printed (most probably) more than 100.
And if i had some money and the opportunity i would buy some of the machina artwork lithographs.
😯
I guess its time to use RedWolfs new special feature.
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yepp!
I didn’t know that there are so much Korean CDs (even an Zwan CD
)Thats some very cool pictures Benway!! Where they not expensive ?[/quote:35li2y48]
So – so.
The last one was cheap: 20$ (with shipping). It’s in near mint condition, but unfortunately it’s already mounted on a thin foam-board. The one with the Lion was a long time available on Ebay for around 20-25$.The other two were more expensive. Can’t remember exactly, but i think something between 50-100$.
(plus the frames)
And yes these Lithos are phantastic. I like them a lot.
SPFreaks got mail:
Update 8
Magazines (+ articles) from US, UK and France.
Including arcticles about James Iha and Zwan.
[/quote:8fk23ce7]Are there any boots of Dave Grohl playing live w/ QOTSA on the Songs for the Deaf tour?[/quote:20k0kwez]
yes, there are boots with dave grohl on drums during the "songs for the deaf" tour. he played the shows during may/june 2002 with qotsa. i’ve seen some torrents on zomb & tradersden, but there are not active anymore.perhaps there exists a qotsa torrent-tracker/hub? but i don’t know…
cool song mr. benway. you can never have too many drummers! just ask slipknot. not my favorite style of singing, however. they seem like they make a huge wall of sound live.
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that’s a more "conventional", "metal-sounding" song with king buzzo and mike patton singing. and there a more experimental, noisy songs only with mike patton on vocals. crazy. and yes, two drummers are great, espcially when these drummers are dave lombardo & dale crover.And Now for Something Completely Different
The Fantomas Melvins Big Band Live from London – Night Goat
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLV_fDi0Ozw[/youtube]And don’t try this at home. HARHAR
This one is close.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Smashing-Pumpkins-S … 240%3A1318[/quote:31v44r53]
Red? It looks more like a little bit darker orange. Hmmm…
A pink one would be niceThis was the last upload for 2008! But I’m sure 2009 will bring many more new items from various collectors, including me!
(Still got a little pile of cds to scan, urgh!)[/quote:3g1q3gj9]
Hey Arthur, you are a hardworking Freak
And yes 2009 will bring some more items. I’ve recieved yesterday a lot of magazines from the Netherlands, US and UK. And i’m scanning all the articles from the recently submitted magazines.
See you all in 2009!
Mr. Benway
Hey suck this over while you’re at it. It’s tiring me OUT!
[/quote:1pc17lno] W*o*W
This "poster" looks really phantastic!And i missed that you have won that German Tristessa 12inch Test Press. Wow. Congratulation
i have seen these, but i miss a rare clip at youtube :"cristal ship" cover …..couldnt find it anymore
[/quote:1juzhhac]Do you mean this?
The Crystal Ship (live 1989) Psycho Tape
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbiGOEK1Xuw[/youtube]
And some other numbers that came to my attention: we went over 2,750 items and over 7,300 pics on our website![/quote:1ekby6id]
Quite impressive!And i have more work for you Arthur
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I’ve send you an e-mail with more new itemsUpdate 6: Zwan (MSOTS Germany 1CD, Japan, Thailand, Malaysia) Honestly German Promo)
Update 7: Booties from Eastern Europe / Russia
[/quote:1ekby6id]Coming soon:
Booties from Eastern Europe / Russia
– All Stars Presents
– Alternative Collection
– Music History
– Music World – The Smashing Pumpkins
– (The Smashing Pumpkins 1) Studio Albums 1989 – 2000 , MP3
– (The Smashing Pumpkins 2) Singles, MP3
– Smashing Pumpkins – Album Collection, MP3
You probably like the BBC recordings too? I do… Spilled Milk & yes, Riverview, are giving me the shivers!
And I love that acoustic cover of Iron Maiden on the first single: Number Of The Beast. Awesome!
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Me too, me too… And the SPFreaks got mail!
Update 5:
Zwan
– Honestly, Germany Cardboard 2-trk
– Honestly, Canada 2-trk
– Honestly, Germany 3-trk
– Honestly, US Promo
– Lyric, Germany Cardboard, Promo
– Lyric, US Promo– True Poets Of Zwan
– Tears Of Zwan
– End Of Zwan
– Post Pumpkins
– Endless Summer
– Acoustically
[/quote:146wchzf]dang, you must be a fan of the Zwan
it took me a long time to even buy MSOTS. 
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uhhh… i’m a collector
When i’ve heard the first songs from the November/December Shows in 2001 i was thrilled. Lots of good/great songs like ‘Chrysanthenum’, ‘The Empty Sea’, ‘Cast A Stone’, ‘Glorious’. Compared to these Shows (and Songs) MSOTS was a little disappointment. From time to time i’m listening to the Cafe de la Danse Concert, with some wonderful songs: ‘Love Lies In Ruins’, ‘Riverview’, ‘Friends And Lovers’.
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