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When Billy said he wanted his Pumpkins back and his songs back, he meant it. T his is for keeps. As he says (to Jimmy?) in Tarantula, "Don’t Break This Oath"
This is for keeps, and is the rebirth. In the deluxe album (not sure of the standard) there is a picture of the funeral of the old Pumpkins. Long live the new. Under the new Pumpkins no one will be able to break it up unless Jimmy quits or falls off the wagon or whatever. If Ginger or Jeff quit, Billy will find new band mates. And so on.[/quote:btfm6lo7]
you know what captjack, i agree with you. very much actually. i also do believe billy is a sincere, genuine and honest person when he talks about his dreams. he has this bond with jimmy, and they are a great team. all other musicians, how cool and great they might be, are probably only enjoying themselves and being uplifted in the shade of this extremely creative guy called billy. which is still a great gift when you think of it. and it works like that in many other bands also. muse, rolling stones, elvis presley, to name a few. we shouldn’t care so much about it and just enjoy what billy and co bring us, judge that from song to song, and pick our favourites. james iha in the track? you like the track or you don’t. james iha not in it? you like the track or you don’t. it doesn’t ruin the pumpkins concept, just my humble opinion.
Hey Orchid
I have that promotional single you’re referencing… Because Virgin made a promotional CD for it, I’d consider it an actual release. Isn’t there a date on the CD promo? Like a release date? Anyway, I’ve also seen on eBay posters for it. Virgin promotional posters. So, yes, I consider it an official release, although, it’s digital. Makes you wonder how do you buy a legitimate copy?[/quote:hnkp9x6k]
cool manilla! kinda rare promo i guess? and i think it’s a genuine release also, but why isn’t it on the discography? i mean, even spfreaks doesnt have it (while spfc has it if i’m right), and the pumpkins dont have it either on their website?here is the cheapest download i found, in holland: http://shop.spitsnet.nl/web/show/id=582 … id=1166024 check it out! it’s so weird to see the 114 tracks for 11.99 euro and then 1.29 euro per track???? huh???? who has found the most expensive download by the way?
sorry, missed it. how was it guys? what song(s) did the pumpkins do? think of it by the way, i mean live earth is something, but late show is all over the us, in which states isn’t it? they got attention!
Orchid,
I have a few ppl looking right now for you. There is a copy of it on Ebay right now….WOW, i think its going for $120.00. So, give me another day or two, see what my friends say. Later[/quote:2c84kinj]
hey you ARE serious aren’t you? keep me posted, i never expected this to happen… on other forums people haven’t been so helpful, this forum rocks! cool toad32r, i hope your friends find it. hopefully for a smaller pricesorry too drunk and tired now to understand, but it makes sense. i love billy, really. long live billy, long live da pumpkins! and iha…. uhmmm… well… cool guy i presume, but jeff enjoyed himself at live earth and i think he’s gonna be better as iha. mark my words. i’m off.
I echo manilla’s sentiments. Thanks for creating this. I am new to SP, and hope this forum will help me get acquainted![/quote:3di9r5lv]
same here, though i’m not completely new to the pumpkins. i’m starting to have a kinda collection, maybe we can help each other comfort, who knows. arthur, who are running this site, or should that stay a secret?Hey Orchid
I have that promotional single you’re referencing… Because Virgin made a promotional CD for it, I’d consider it an actual release. Isn’t there a date on the CD promo? Like a release date?Anyway, I’ve also seen on eBay posters for it. Virgin promotional posters. So, yes, I consider it an official release, although, it’s digital. Makes you wonder how do you buy a legitimate copy?[/quote:3vubbbes]
download it! i found a pretty cheap download placed somehwere i think i posted it here somewhere while talking to superlordb-sides and rarities?
i believe that may be an official release…
i think the one you are referring to is the download only version? with over a hundred songs on it?
even if it’s not official (which i believe it is, as i think its on itunes) it’s bloody good value! it’s nwar comprehensive on nearly all pumpkins b-sides rarities![/quote:3ey0opbn]
yup, it’s download only i think. but i see it nowhere on the discography, that’s what makes me wonder…Really, who will find out anyway? The music police don’t have time to search all our music collections for pirated copies of songs. I think you’ll be fine.[/quote:3bt0dxvg]
yeah you’re probably right. you know i download quite some live stuffs of sp but no commercial songs you know. i dont care because its all on live music archive website anyway.and that zzzzzzzzzzzeitgeist accent… i forgive you billy, i guess you were sick! great set anyway!!!!
1. united states! coooooooooooool!!!!!!!!!!!! (short version)
2. bullet with butterfly wings! and billy looks very nervous
3. tarantula! rock on!
billy is sick, his voice is kinda bad… poor billy!
4. todaywell, jeff enjoyed himself, jimmy is a pro, but billy’s voice… awww
agreed! anyways… silverfuck, gossamer, who cares as long as they waste their entire set on one song![/quote:3cnm1p3e]
hahahaha! i just heard from a friend they played 40 minutes versions of Gossamer on the last Asheville shows, it wouldn’t even fit in the 20 minutes they got… i’ll go with ya on the silverfuck then. again, you’re not in the us right superlord?yeah, you’re right. just found it also, but not on their website, but on their myspace profile. check this out superlord: http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea … =285006795 and from there you can go to http://www.liveearth.org/broadcast.php#searchdevice . on the blogreactions i read somewhere it will be 02:00 irish/british summertime something. you don’t happen to be around there, are ya? if so, take some hot coffee hahahaha!
and you want silverfuck? i want gossamer!it’s 9-9:20 i believe[/quote:1dl87wfl]
what? only 20 minutes? too short! where did you find that? thanks anywayyeah true, us, i guessed you knew that already… but i wanna know the exact time also, but it’s not on here http://liveearth.msn.com/artists/smashingpumpkins and here’s the stream http://entimg.msn.com/i/ExperienceData/ … 77c597c4ab but nowhere to be found so far the local US time when exactly they play… aaaarghh!!
OK! i’ll try and make this my last post regarding this!
try this: http://www.klarnet.net/smashing_pumpkin … 128141.htm
i hope that is correct
if it isnt, just google the song, and add download or something similar at the end… im sure you’ll find something eventually[/quote:3rwunvf3]
thanks superlord! eventually I found it last night! you were a great help! ps remembered another unknown (?) oldie I like very much, which is slunk. don’t know much about that song, only its on the earphoria i got, and i love them rocking out in it!http://blamonetwork.com/sp/sounds/
a quick google revealed this
seems good
has a lot of songs on there[/quote:nln89rv8]
naaahh, thats a format I don’t know, it’s rm, and it doesnt work. at least you got me "on the google" again and I found this: http://www.starla.org/history/spaa2/ but it has 2 dead links, and this: http://www.exlibris.ch/downloadm.aspx?s … id=2657542 (edit) is kinda cool also, however I don’t know what CHF 15.00 is in US$. seems cheap though… let me search a bit more…
