Forum Replies Created
-
Posts
-
Sven… is back.
No idea, the mysterious ways of the (Super)lord I guess. Funny thing is, the pic is even called catbread.jpg!
Good idea manillascissor, but we have to rename the Category then I guess. Any suggestions?
Official Paperwork?
Legal Documents?I guess the last one is not that bad, I’m giving it a try now. Then I’ll put the I Am One 7\" invoice in there now also.
Here’s my desktop. It’s like this for quite a while already, as I love this early pic of my girlfriend.
Thanks! No lawsuit without catbread, is my newest rule.
From now on, everytime we talk about lawsuits, somebody brings in the catbread. Right?
But back to topic, I’m with Dazey. I’m looking forward to this Gish box set so much, it’s unbelievable. I realise that now, when they talk about \"The upcoming Gish Box Set, scheduled for release in early 2009, may be affected by the outcome of this lawsuit.\". I’m sure it’s gonna be an awesome release, and a true gem in the Pumpkins back catalog. Fingers crossed…
I think this Picture Caption is in place here now
this amount of money with Virgin Records?"[/quote:1036acqe]Oh, and we need another catbread on this page. I love that pic! Where is it?
You know what? It still could turn out a bit messy and nasty. I don’t know the details exactly of course, but when Billy Corgan signed the contract in early 2005 (not in 2006 as PMM states) for this digital releases deal with EMI/Virgin, was he aware that James and D’Arcy needed to sign also?
When I check the press release of \"True Power. True Faith.\" dated 2005/03/21 ( http://www.spfreaks.com/Default.aspx?pa … S&item=931 , see last pic), on there it clearly states \"Virgin/EMI and Billy Corgan collaborate on long-awaited digital release of the Smashing Pumpkins catalog\". Not a word about James and D’Arcy…
For example, when Billy made the move towards Virgin about the digital releases, then he should have contacted James and D’Arcy first to ask \"hey guys, let’s make some cash, are you with me?\". And I wouldn’t blame any bandmember to cash in on some copyright, it’s legal and fair. On the other hand, in other contracts (or within the 1998 contract) it might state that Billy Corgan is allowed to do individual deals for himself as he is the main copyright holder of the music and lyrics. He might even be the only copyright holder for the name Smashing Pumpkins, and in that case, Virgin maybe made no mistake at all! I just don’t know, but it leaves you wondering… In my opinion, at least Virgin with their huge legal department, made a huge mistake to not inform James and D’Arcy in 2005, as co-signers of the 1998 contract. This is not about some cookies and toys, this is about many many thousands of dollars that should be divided properly between parties…
Another place that is linking us: Facebook.
I’m not on Facebook myself, but the contributor of this pic told me it is from the Smashing Pumpkins Fan Club page.
Forgot to say, I’m actually surprised in a positive way that sp.com reports about it, and the detailed information they are giving. Sad news for the Gish box however, let’s hope with all powers that it will still see the day of light!
A little more news emerged from sp.com.
James Iha & D’Arcy Wretzky sue EMI
As reported earlier this week across the web, former Pumpkins James Iha and D’arcy Wretzky have filed a lawsuit against former record label Virgin (EMI). TMZ.com even supplied us with a colorful headline: Smashing Pumpkins Lose Their Virginity.
After quickly reading through the documents posted by TMZ, it can be seen that the problem at hand stems from a contract with Virgin signed by D’arcy, James, and Billy back in 1998. Because of their success with Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie, Virgin was willing to negotiate the terms of the contract to restrict distribution of SP music through new technology unless both parties (SP & Virgin) agreed to the terms. Apparently, sometime in 2006, an amendment to the contract was signed to allow Virgin to distribute SP music through digital transmission. This corresponds roughly to when Smashing Pumpkins songs began showing up on iTunes. It could be surmised that the amendment was not signed by D’arcy and James, yet affected royalties or other sums that belonged to them. The plaintiffs are seeking unspecified damages.
It is important to note that the lawsuit does not imply wrong-doing by any members of the band, past or present, but instead that Virgin may have breached its initial contract with James and D’arcy.
So what does this mean to The Smashing Pumpkins?
The lawsuit is not filed against any members of the band. It is directly aimed at Virgin who is accused of not paying either former Pumpkin their share of digital royalties. It seems that the current line-up of the band is in the clear, although it would appear there may still be ramifications for future Smashing Pumpkins releases.
The upcoming Gish Box Set, scheduled for release in early 2009, may be affected by the outcome of this lawsuit. No details have yet emerged regarding in what way the proposed release would be affected, but it can be assumed that Virgin still owns some rights to the Gish material. Gish was released on Caroline Records, a subsidiary of Virgin.
If the Gish Box Set does suffer from current legal battles, the outcome of this lawsuit could affect more than just the parties directly involved. Those waiting patiently for their next piece of the \"Pumpkin Pie\" may have to wait a little longer, or wait indefinitely.
Smashingpumpkins.com will continue to supply details as they become available.
I don’t think this is insanely expensive… I mean, any Nirvana TP is pricier… I remember a Love Buzz 7" TP selling for approx. $3000 and the guy who got is, was really suprised he got is that cheap
[/quote:1oifpkv1]
Yeah I can imagine, sometimes 1 of the "normal" Love Buzz 7"-es reach such price!My guts feelings say it is a WLP (White Label Promo) anyway. Because it comes from the same pressing run obviously. But the cover is different indeed, with that info part you showed here. Is the whole cover different JamesIha?
No, I don’t think so. I have a little pile of those stickers too, they were a present from a good friend.
I’m in my Van Gogh phase[/quote:2xk0jdyl]
You still got both ears I hope?Beautiful screens you got, guys! I’m having my gf as the background of my desktop, a nice pic I shot of her when we visited a medieval Dutch castle a few years ago. I’ll ask her if she doesn’t mind me showing it here…
Yeah well the crazy negative people better not come over here….We can shut em down off this site…lol [/quote:y0nu73dx]
Remember, we got KILLA MANILLA.
"Jeeesus loooves his baaabieees!" <- What a swish ‘lil song.
[/quote:kurbl7si]
I had that song in mind too yes!Arthur, go for it, I don’t have a problem with you using it in the collection. Anything to help out.[/quote:n5xdiie5]
You ROCK!I’m sure it will reach a good price, I haven’t seen them go for below 150 US$, but I didn’t see them all of course. Allison, you should try to find that Metro/Pumpkins note to go with it, it makes it way more collectible (and people will possibly be more willing to pay a good price too). Just a thought…
Also, put a link to SPfreaks.com in the auction to give it more credibility. This one:
[/quote:3uki2q3i]
