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you were touched by it?
haha thansk for saying that!
dammit you’re giving me hope yet for my dreams!
but yeah i know it’s not judged by the art alone, i was just using the art as a reference point… couldn’t remember who posted it, title of song etc. but i remembered the art, and that the song and so forth was really good
mmm yeah…
i plan to enter a couple more times, to the full 5 entries
unfortuanately the eden cover one i think will win… it”s just so damn good!hahaha! cool! you did some work on that pic mate, because it passed fast and kinda blurry in the vid… you’re kinda handy with the pc and software aren’t you?[/quote:3eiy76s3] i just used print screen, saved it, and then edited it in macromedia firewroks (like photoshop or whatever – i just managed to get it free
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but i’ve seen waaaay more complicated home made icons than the one i made – we’re talking incredibly smooth .gifs and animations that must have been frame by frame print screening! (not too hard if you use the right media player, but time consuming nevertheless – and getting the right time on the frames is hard too!)
but yeah
seriously, i loved it when billy gave the thumbs up! he looked so… cute for want of a better wordit is just some text i added to a screenshot – "billy got a lobster" because i just loved his face when he gave the thumbs up after buying the antique lobster
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what lobster anecdote is that? curious…[/quote:30fsarej] go to http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/dayinthelife.php and watch the video: Hanging around town with Billy
he goes to an antique store
buys an antique lobsteryeah i originally did it as 100×100 px, and it looked better than that =S
it is just some text i added to a screenshot – \"billy got a lobster =]\"
because i just loved his face when he gave the thumbs up after buying the antique lobstera little off topic, or is this argument beginning to sound a bit like the abortion and foetus debate again? is a foetus a ‘alive’ at conception, or when it’s heart starts beating etc.
see the similarity?
just a peculiar analogy i noticedwasnt it meant to be a new video every hour? they kinda stopped doing any =S which is kinda annoying
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yeah, however there are a few more here http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/dayinthelife.php[/quote:293er8h7] yeah i know, i put it as my homepage at the beginning of it i think it’s more of a twice daily thing… which is a shame…
hah but the antique store one allowed me to create myself a new avatar (<— look)naahh i didn’t realise that, i found it on a myspace blog and i wasnt sure how long that was available… but i can post like silly, you have always more post counts
and i complained already in the tech section here that we should be able to post longer texts also[/quote:q5oxqrf5]
ah fair enough
lol i guess i always do but you’re only like 10 or 12 behind me 
and i dont think you’ll be able to get longer posts… something to do with loading or whatever? im not sure
but you could have linked to the blog! doesnt really matter though um… orchid? next time just post the link
because the link was on the pumpkins home page and all…
so yeh (i think you were just trying to get your post counts up )
but yeah, a really good interview i thoughtah well. i think jeff seems quite settled, and that judging by this he could soon be regarded as one of the pumpkins =]
not sure bout ginger tho…
wasnt it meant to be a new video every hour? they kinda stopped doing any =S
which is kinda annoyingooh! a video i really like (which i dont reckon has been said yet) is 1979… i just like the summer-time feel of it, how it’s just a bunch of non-caring kids in summer… and billy in the car too, it’s just really good
And this was my reply.
You have given it a good try to set up a critical story, Smiley! Cool! The only thing I could find however that is "wrong information" is that all the studio recordings are now in the Tour History section. This is for 2 reasons at the moment:-Our sources need to compare the older dates in a historical timeframe with the concerts, so we put the recording sessions there for the moment. Later on we will move this to an extra section Recording Sessions. For the moment it looks "wrong" yes, sorry for that.
-Our website is always in progress. Sometimes we forget to change headers, titles, columns, fields, dates etc. We have to keep track of a lot of information, compare tons of things, discuss it with our teammembers, answer emails and so on. Little mistakes can be made. Please forgive us.Your point 1. Correct, those 2 versions are circulating. I never denied that. This 3rd version of I Fall however is not wanted by Billy Corgan to circulate, so our source respects that. Nothing wrong here.
Your point 2. Just a matter of opinion. For example Kitty Kat exists in a Distorted version and a Non-Distorted version. Kitty Kat is not a new song indeed, but a remixed, a polished up, newly mastered or even an edited version is however called a "new" track. All collectors of new SP tracks and hardcore fans will agree with that. Nothing wrong here.
Your point 3. So you agree they haven’t been commercially released till now, as you state. Nothing wrong here. The "concert" thingy is already discussed above. Again, sorry for the confusion caused at the moment.
Your points 4&5. Might be true, yet it is news not known to many people. You cannot deny that. I see it from this point of view. Technically when Billy and James record a song called I Fall, a song without any historical background to other bands (Snake Train, The Marked, Hexen, & also no old bandmembers involved) and later on even perform that song under the name Smashing Pumpkins with the same people that recorded it, and put it (the Dec. ’87 recording) on a tape with the name Smashing Pumpkins on it, then it is a full Pumpkins song, agree? It cannot in any way be compared to Spiteface and Sun, which are indeed older tunes from The Marked, adopted and renewed by the early Pumpkins. Sorry, but I cannot follow you there when you make this comparison anyway.
To cut a kinda long story short: it might be said by Billy Corgan the Pumpkins started in 1988, because the name comes from that year. But TECHNICALLY and technically alone the Smashing Pumpkins exists since Dec. 1987. At least! No other website I know lists something about this year 1987. Or it must be in the dark alleys of it somewhere. It’s even worse, everywhere you will find lies like "1988 Billy Corgan meets James Iha through a friend" (see for example this Virgin press release that was send to me today: http://www.spfreaks.com/?page=IMGVIEW&item=5407 ). It’s just not true, they knew each other already in 1987! And I think SPfreaks has the full right to blow a little horn about this. And we provide NO wrong information in this matter. Even though you gave it good try.[/quote:1pvvqift]woo he got told
well done arthur!I thought I’d be one of the "old" ones here, lol! I’m 23…and a Pumpkins fan since the age of 9
[/quote:106szalu] oooh thats quite a young age to get into rock… ugh i was still listening to pop and shit like that at that age gagh i didnt get into ‘rock’ until i was like 12 (first ‘proper’ rock record was blink-182 )i’m happy with the way it sounds. how much different does the "polished" version sound?
you’re not confusing it with the live recording from the avalon show, are you?ps: here’s a link to an mp3 of what is out: http://rspaa.niluje.net/data/Miscellaneous/[/quote:1ln5dbi7]oh cool thanks
i didnt know that *facepalm*i say it’s fun.
it’s been fairly easy though. i have 13 different cd versions so far. and there are 3 more on the way.[/quote:3w04vvm8] well you must be loaded/employed
oh that is awesome!
we are actually important to the pumpkins fan-base on a global scale
shame that it won’t be leaked
i would love to hear it…i disagree – ok, it is by no means one of pumpkins best albums, but zeitgeist is still good
maybe its because im still a ‘new’ fan, i don’t have that many preconceptions of what a pumpkins album should be or whatever, but i do feel zeitgeist is a solid album. and also, Billy and Jimmy are now middle aged, so im not surprised their sound as changed – as they mature, so does the writing… i guess
im not really sure as im still tired
but i still reckon zeitgeist is an excellent album
